Josh Mankiewicz and Keith Morrison sit down to talk about Keith’s most recent episode, “If These Walls Could Talk.” In November 2016, Susann Sills was found dead at the bottom of the staircase in the home she shared with her husband and their two children in San Clemente, California. Susann’s death appeared to have been a terrible accident, but investigators soon discovered evidence that led them to believe it was something more sinister. Keith tells Josh about the puzzling circumstances surrounding Susann’s death and shares behind-the-scenes details of filming the episode.

Keith also plays a podcast-exclusive clip from his interview with one of Susann’s brothers and Dateline producer Michelle Madigan joins in to answer viewer questions.

Listen to the full episode of “If These Walls Could Talk” here: https://link.chtbl.com/dl_ifthesewallscouldtalk

Listen to “Poison,” the episode Josh mentions that also took place in San Clemente here: https://link.chtbl.com/dl_poison

A Southern California woman's fall down the stairs initially appears to be a fatal accident, but when deputies arrest her husband, his story unravels. Keith Morrison reports.

Josh Mankiewicz sits down with Andrea Canning to talk about her latest episode, “Chameleon.” When Fran Gladden Smith went missing from her New Jersey home in 1991, police had their eyes on her husband, John Smith. Over the course of their investigation, they discovered that Fran wasn’t the first of John’s wives to go missing. Suddenly, one case became two, and a decades-long search for justice ensued. Josh and Andrea discuss the dedication of Fran’s family in trying to solve both cases, and Andrea shares a podcast-exclusive clip from a taped phone call with John Smith. Plus, Andrea answers viewer and listener questions about the episode.