Parking is, for most drivers, one of the most mundane and frustrating aspects of driving. But it's also one of the most complex challenges in urban mobility - one that reaches deep into issues that include public transportation, urban design, business models, technology, and sustainability.

In this episode, we discuss the business and technology of parking with Lukas Neckermann, Co-Founder of the Urban Places Lab, and Managing Director of Neckermann Strategic Advisors, and Jonny Combe, President and CEO of PayByPhone.

We look at the technologies that have been developed to address the challenges of finding parking, paying for parking, and what else you can do with a parked car, as well as alternatives to parking, the future of connected car services, and the evolution of digital payment services.

Episode guests

Jonny Combe, President and CEO of PayByPhone

Learn more at paybyphone.com and connect with Jonny on LinkedIn

Lukas Neckermann, Co-Founder of the Urban Places Lab, and the Managing Director of Neckermann Strategic Advisors

Find out more at neckermann.net and connect with Lukas on LinkedIn

Links

The Urban Places Lab White paper mentioned by Lukas (published in German):

"Parkflächen im Umbruch – Lösungen für den Einzelhandel"

Whitepaper Parkflächen - Urban Places Lab

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FISITA is the global alliance for automotive engineers and engineering leaders, led by the FISITA President.

In 2025, the two-year rolling presidency of FISITA was passed from Mike Anderson to ChangHwan Kim.

Mike is Vice President Global Battery & Propulsion Engineering at General Motors, and ChangHwan is Executive Vice President, and Head of Battery and Hydrogen Fuel Cell Development at Hyundai Motor Company.

As well as discussing their current corporate responsibilities, we talked at length about FISITA—what it means to them, Mike's reflections on his Presidency from 2023 to 2025, and how ChangHwan aims to lead the organisation during his tenure that runs from 2025 to 2027.

We discussed the role of FISITA, the important work it does in bringing engineers together in the pre-competitive space, and the evolution of the organisation.

This episode of Beyond the Car was recorded on the sidelines of the 2025 FISITA World Mobility Conference, so there are some gentle background atmospherics thanks to the buzz of the event that was going on around us.

I'd like to thank Mike and ChangHwan for being on the podcast. It’s not often that we get two FISITA presidents in the same room, so we’re delighted that this episode came together as it did.

About the guests

Mike Anderson, Vice President Global Battery & Propulsion Engineering at General Motors

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ChangHwan Kim, Executive Vice President, and Head of Battery and Hydrogen Fuel Cell Development at Hyundai Motor Company

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To learn more about FISITA, go to fisita.com

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For more information about FISITA, head to FISITA.com - and to learn more about the 'Beyond the Car' podcast, you can contact us at info@fisita.com.

'Beyond the car' is the new FISITA podcast about the technology of getting around.

Hosted by Martin Kahl, CTO of FISITA, each episode of 'Beyond the Car' will feature thoughtful conversations with leading engineers and engineering leaders, and respected industry experts involved in the business and technology of mobility.

In 'Beyond the Car', we'll feature guests from across the car industry - vehicle manufacturers, suppliers, and other stakeholders - but we'll also be talking to those developing the technology that supports the commercial vehicle industry, motorsport, supply chain and logistics, new mobility providers, those involved in parking, and public transport, and anyone else associated with the movement of people and goods.

You can listen to FISITA's 'Beyond the Car' podcast wherever you get your podcasts.

For more information about FISITA, head to FISITA.com - and to learn more about the 'Beyond the Car' podcast, you can contact us at info@fisita.com.