When grief hits, it doesn’t just break your heart — it changes your entire life.

In this powerful and intimate episode of Deep Diving Divas, Nancy and Elaine sit down with Dr. Martha Carr, clinical psychologist, therapist, and author of My Grief Teacher, to explore how loss can devastate us… but also transform us in profound and meaningful ways.

Eight years ago, Martha lost her husband suddenly — and the experience reshaped her personally and professionally. Today, she opens up about what grief really feels like, what surprised her, how it altered her relationships, and what it taught her about being human.

If you or someone you love is grieving, this episode will bring comfort, clarity, and hope — straight from someone who has lived it and now helps others do the same.

💔 In this episode, Martha shares:

• What grief really looks and feels like — beyond the clichés

• The moment she realized life had changed forever

• The hardest parts of grief over time

• How loss changed her as a therapist and as a woman

• Why some friendships deepen after loss… and why others fall away

• The biggest lessons grief teaches us about love and living

• How to truly show up for someone who is grieving (and what to avoid)

🕊️ If you’ve ever felt lost in grief, or unsure how to support someone who is hurting — this conversation is for you.

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