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📆 ThursdAI - Dec 4, 2025 - DeepSeek V3.2 Goes Gold Medal, Mistral Returns to Apache 2.0, OpenAI Hits Code Red, and US-Trained MOEs Are Back!

📆 ThursdAI - Dec 4, 2025 - DeepSeek V3.2 Goes Gold Medal, Mistral Returns to Apache 2.0, OpenAI Hits Code Red, and US-Trained MOEs Are Back!

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 Hey yall, Alex here 🫡 Welcome to the first ThursdAI of December! Snow is falling in Colorado, and AI releases are falling even harder. This week was genuinely one of those “drink from the firehose” weeks where every time I refreshed my timeline, another massive release had dropped.We kicked off the show asking our co-hosts for their top AI pick of the week, and the answers were all over the map: Wolfram was excited about Mistral’s return to Apache 2.0, Yam couldn’t stop talking about Claude Opus 4.5 after a full week of using it, and Nisten came out of left field with an AWQ quantization of Prime Intellect’s model that apparently runs incredibly fast on a single GPU. As for me? I’m torn between Opus 4.5 (which literally fixed bugs that Gemini 3 created in my code) and DeepSeek’s gold-medal winning reasoning model.Speaking of which, let’s dive into what happened this week, starting with the open source stuff that’s been absolutely cooking. Open Source LLMsDeepSeek V3.2: The Whale Returns with Gold MedalsThe whale is back, folks! DeepSeek released two major updates this week: V3.2 and V3.2-Speciale. And these aren’t incremental improvements—we’re talking about an open reasoning-first model that’s rivaling GPT-5 and Gemini 3 Pro with actual gold medal Olympiad wins.Here’s what makes this release absolutely wild: DeepSeek V3.2-Speciale is achieving 96% on AIME versus 94% for GPT-5 High. It’s getting gold medals on IMO (35/42), CMO, ICPC (10/12), and IOI (492/600). This is a 685 billion parameter MOE model with MIT license, and it literally broke the benchmark graph on HMMT 2025—the score was so high it went outside the chart boundaries. That’s how you DeepSeek, basically.But it’s not just about reasoning. The regular V3.2 (not Speciale) is absolutely crushing it on agentic benchmarks: 73.1% on SWE-Bench Verified, first open model over 35% on Tool Decathlon, and 80.3% on τ²-bench. It’s now the second most intelligent open weights model and ranks ahead of Grok 4 and Claude Sonnet 4.5 on Artificial Analysis.The price is what really makes this insane: 28 cents per million tokens on OpenRouter. That’s absolutely ridiculous for this level of performance. They’ve also introduced DeepSeek Sparse Attention (DSA) which gives you 2-3x cheaper 128K inference without performance loss. LDJ pointed out on the show that he appreciates how transparent they’re being about not quite matching Gemini 3’s efficiency on reasoning tokens, but it’s open source and incredibly cheap.One thing to note: V3.2-Speciale doesn’t support tool calling. As Wolfram pointed out from the model card, it’s “designed exclusively for deep reasoning tasks.” So if you need agentic capabilities, stick with the regular V3.2.Check out the full release on Hugging Face or read the announcement.Mistral 3: Europe’s Favorite AI Lab Returns to Apache 2.0Mistral is back, and they’re back with fully open Apache 2.0 licenses across the board! This is huge news for the open source community. They released two major things this week: Mistral Large 3 and the Ministral 3 family of small models.Mistral Large 3 is a 675 billion parameter MOE with 41 billion active parameters and a quarter million (256K) context window, trained on 3,000 H200 GPUs. There’s been some debate about this model’s performance, and I want to address the elephant in the room: some folks saw a screenshot showing Mistral Large 3 very far down on Artificial Analysis and started dunking on it. But here’s the key context that Merve from Hugging Face pointed out—this is the only non-reasoning model on that chart besides GPT 5.1. When you compare it to other instruction-tuned (non-reasoning) models, it’s actually performing quite well, sitting at #6 among open models on LMSys Arena.Nisten checked LM Arena and confirmed that on coding specifically, Mistral Large 3 is scoring as one of the best open source coding models available. Yam made an important point that we should compare Mistral to other open source players like Qwen and DeepSeek rather than to closed models—and in that context, this is a solid release.But the real stars of this release are the Ministral 3 small models: 3B, 8B, and 14B, all with vision capabilities. These are edge-optimized, multimodal, and the 3B actually runs completely in the browser with WebGPU using transformers.js. The 14B reasoning variant achieves 85% on AIME 2025, which is state-of-the-art for its size class. Wolfram confirmed that the multilingual performance is excellent, particularly for German.There’s been some discussion about whether Mistral Large 3 is a DeepSeek finetune given the architectural similarities, but Mistral claims these are fully trained models. As Nisten noted, even if they used similar architecture (which is Apache 2.0 licensed), there’s nothing wrong with that—it’s an excellent architecture that works. Lucas Atkins later confirmed on the show that “Mistral ...
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