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This episode includes honest discussion of addiction and legal consequences.

What does recovery look like when the compulsion won’t let go? In this conversation, I am privileged to sit with Kelli Bauer, who lives with kleptomania—an often-hidden addiction—and has paid steep personal and legal costs. This conversation is brave and vulnerable. We talk about the difference between “shoplifting” and a clinical compulsion, how shame and secrecy keep us sick, what (actually) helps day-to-day, and why, for Kelli, hope looks like refusing to give up—one hour, one errand, one decision at a time.

We cover:

• Kleptomania vs. “casual shoplifting” (compulsion, not character)
• Consequences: arrests, career loss, media fallout—and rebuilding anyway
• Supports that help: meetings, service, meds, accountability
• Real-life tactics: don’t shop alone, stay in the same aisle, phone-in support
• Triggers everywhere (stores on every route) and how to plan around them
• Redefining hope when relapse happens

Resources & Links

• CASA (Kleptomania & Shoplifters Anonymous) — weekly meeting info
• Terry Shulman’s counseling/resources for theft & compulsive behaviors
• Instagram and TikTok: @twoliveswithkel

If you or someone you love is struggling, please reach out to a licensed professional or a local support line.

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