EP303 "Why trying to quit made me drink even more" with Katie Herzog (Drink your way sober with naltrexone)
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Katie Herzog spent 15 years trying everything: AA, therapy, CBT, SMART Recovery, moderation management, swapping booze for weed. Nothing stuck. And in the back of her mind, she always knew she'd start drinking again. It was just a question of when.
Then she found the Sinclair Method—a protocol where you take a medication called naltrexone, wait an hour, and drink. It sounds too simple. It sounds like cheating. But is it? Katie's been completely sober for three years.
In this conversation, we dig into the science of how naltrexone rewires your brain, why the first three months don't look like much, and why realistic expectations might be the most important factor in whether this works for you.
In this episode, we cover:
→ Katie's 15-year journey through AA, therapy, misdiagnosis, and desperation—and why the idea that abstinence is the only path kept her stuck for years
→ What the Sinclair Method actually is and how naltrexone blocks the endorphin rush that makes drinking feel good
→ The difference between "reward drinkers" and "relief drinkers"—and who TSM is best suited for
→ Why Katie's first attempt with naltrexone failed (and what she did differently the second time)
→ AND MUCH MUCH MORE.
This episode is for you if:
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You've tried AA or other programs and they didn't stick
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The idea of "never drinking again" feels impossible
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You're curious about medication-assisted approaches but don't know where to start
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You're exhausted by the mental chatter—always thinking about drinking whether you're drinking or not
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You want to understand ALL the options, not just the abstinence-only path
About the book: Drink Your Way Sober: A Science-Based Method to Break Free from Alcohol releases September 30th and is available on Amazon and at independent bookstores.
Connect with Katie Herzog:
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Website: drinkyourwaysober.com
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Podcast: Blocked and Reported
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