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AI, Spirituality, and the Future of the Church, with Drew Dickens

AI, Spirituality, and the Future of the Church, with Drew Dickens

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On this episode of the Intentional Churches Podcast, Doug sits down with longtime broadcaster, ministry leader, and AI researcher Drew Dickens for a timely and thought-provoking conversation on AI, spirituality, and the future of the Church.With more than 30 years of vocational ministry experience—and a front-row seat to the rise of artificial intelligence—Drew helps church leaders move beyond fear and hype to thoughtfully engage how AI is already shaping the pulpit, the pew, and spiritual formation.Together, Doug and Drew explore:Why AI is morally neutral—and how the Church must lead with discernment instead of fearHow AI is quietly becoming a spiritual authority in people’s livesThe threat AI poses to embodiment, community, and relational discipleshipWhat pastors need to understand about how congregants are already using AI for therapy, prayer, and guidanceHow church leaders can use AI responsibly as a tool, not a replacement for Spirit-led formationPractical ways AI can support relational evangelism without replacing human connectionDrew also shares a powerful personal story that illustrates both the real comfort and the real dangers of AI—and why everything must ultimately be brought back into Spirit-filled community.If you’re a senior pastor, ministry leader, or church staff member wondering how to lead faithfully in a rapidly changing digital landscape, this conversation will help you think clearly, lead courageously, and shepherd wisely in the age of AI.New to Intentional Churches? Start here:intentionalchurches.comTimestamps00:00 – A late-night conversation with AI that changed everything01:00 – Welcome to the Intentional Churches Podcast01:26 – Meet Drew Dickens: broadcaster, ministry leader, and early AI adopter03:10 – Drew’s journey from national radio to evangelism and contemplative prayer apps05:19 – Reaching hundreds of thousands daily through Scripture and meditation06:33 – Why AI is everywhere—and why most people don’t even realize it07:14 – Is AI “of the devil”? A biblical framework for discernment08:38 – What history teaches us about technology and temptation10:30 – Why pastors can’t ignore how AI is shaping everyday spirituality11:14 – How congregants are already using AI in their spiritual lives13:37 – The three biggest threats AI poses to the Church14:55 – Threat #1: AI and the erosion of spiritual authority16:47 – Threat #2: Disembodiment and the loss of real community18:06 – Threat #3: Algorithm-driven spiritual formation19:47 – How pastors should educate and lead their congregations around AI21:55 – Why transparency from the pulpit matters more than fear24:39 – Embodiment, discipleship, and why relationships still matter most26:17 – AI as therapist: what church leaders need to understand now28:03 – A deeply personal story: grief, AI, and prayer at 1 a.m.30:31 – Bringing AI experiences into Spirit-filled community33:22 – Evangelism, awe, and what AI can never replace35:30 – Why relational evangelism transforms the believer38:07 – Using AI to practice gospel conversations wisely39:58 – A powerful evangelism tool pastors should pay attention to42:34 – AI debating theology: creativity without replacing the Spirit44:12 – Revival, Gen Z, and the Church’s moment of responsibility47:13 – AI as a tool for exploration—not authority48:10 – Where to learn more from Drew Dickens50:09 – Final encouragement for church leaders navigating AI faithfullyWebsite: intentionalchurches.comThe Radical Alignment BookBlog: intentionalchurches.com/blogYouTube: @IntentionalChurchesFacebook: Intentional ChurchesInstagram: @IntentionalChurchesX/Twitter: @IntentChurches
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