Welcome to A Year and a Day. I’m Jaime Davis, board-certified family law attorney at Gailor Hunt. In this episode, I’m talking with Dr. Lee Baucom, a veteran relationship coach, therapist, and creator of the Save the Marriage System.

Lee shares his perspective as a "recovering marriage therapist," explaining why traditional marriage counseling often fails by focusing on communication—the "plumbing"—rather than the underlying connection. He breaks down how marriages often hit a "pause button" during busy seasons of life, leading to a slow cascade of disconnection that mirrors the symptoms people mistake for the "reasons" for divorce.

Together, we explore the concept of "The We"—viewing the marriage as a third entity or a team—and how this mindset shift can resolve conflicts over money, parenting, in-laws, and more. Lee reveals how one partner can unilaterally change the "dance" of a relationship to invite restoration, even when the other is emotionally withdrawn or "quietly quitting" the marriage. Whether you are looking to save your partnership or create a better co-parenting relationship, Lee provides a roadmap for moving from high-conflict combat to connection.

Need help from Lee? Discover his system and resources by visiting savethemarriage.com.

If you are in need of legal assistance in North Carolina, contact us at Gailor Hunt by visiting www.divorceistough.com.

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While the information presented is intended to provide you with general information to navigate divorce without destruction, this podcast is not legal advice. This information is specific to the law in North Carolina. If you have any questions before taking action, consult an attorney who is licensed in your state.