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On Killing

The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society

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On Killing

Auteur(s): Lt. Col. Dave Grossman
Narrateur(s): Lt. Col. Dave Grossman
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The revised and updated edition of Lt. Col. Dave Grossman's modern classic about the psychology of combat, hailed by the Washington Post as "an illuminating account of how soldiers learn to kill and how they live with the experiences of having killed". In World War II, only 15 to 20 percent of combat infantry were willing to fire their rifles. In Korea, about 50 percent. In Vietnam, the figure rose to more than 90 percent.

The good news is that most soldiers are loath to kill. But armies have developed sophisticated ways sophisticated ways of overcoming that instinctive aversion. The psychological cost for soldiers, as evidenced by the increase in post-traumatic stress, is devastating. This landmark study brilliantly illuminates the techniques the military uses to help soldiers kill and raises vital questions about the implications of escalating violence in our society.

©2009 David Grossman (P)2009 David Grossman Criminologie Militaire Psychologie Psychologie et santé mentale Science militaire Sciences sociales Violence dans la société Inspirant Guerre Santé mentale Soldat Crime

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"This important book deserves a wide readership." ( Library Journal)

"Powerfully argued...Full of arresting observations and insights." (New York Times)
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I really enjoyed this audiobook. It was incredibly informative and speaks many truths about the topic of killing in war - a topic that is considered taboo and largely hidden away from the general public. Dave Grossman weaves a compelling narrative together through the use of first-hand accounts, rigorous research into the psychology of killing among combat soldiers, and his vast knowledge of the military and military history. Additionally, Grossman's rhythm, pace, and tone made for a great listening experience, and I think he was a perfect fit for the role.

Informative and great narration!

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I am glad I finally took the time to listen to this. I am now going to check out On Combat.

I waited years to listen to this.

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Well written so that any person can understand even with it’s deep dives into psychology.

Everyone should read!

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Causes a bit of soul searching afterwards and personal reflection of how you feel afterward. as part of a younger generation of Canadians I feel like opinions of yes obviously war and violence is bad but in many circumstances it is strangely romanticized in media and in my own circles of tabletop wargaming as we are quite removed from the reality of the impact and circumstances that happen with the things that are often glorified in the wrong way. And having not lived through Vietnam era war nor understanding the political climate and how returning veterans were treated I was quite appalled by the behaviour cited in the book and has caused some introspective thoughts as to how I would personally treat those individuals. As well as to try instill the values to my young son that I would be proud to share and encourage.

excellent read!!

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True wisdom borne of true experience, Grossman gets to the heart of the rituals and psychological dynamics of killing. What it does to the killer, his community, his sense of honour and sense of self. This is not a subject we as a society should ignore, if we are to continue sending troops into the field, cops into dangerous situations, and emotionally disturbed young men into the streets.

Grossman tells us about parades and medals, how they tie back to cleansing rituals, and how that system allows us, as a society to hold contradictory ideas about killing. He reminds us that war is as old as civilization, and peels back the blanket of war propaganda, also as old as civilization, just enough to show us how necessary it is.

mesmerizing

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Well narrated and good pace for this book.

I recommend this book to military leaders, and all others at the "pointy end of the stick."

I attempted to search the pseudonym and book reference atteibuted to the Canadian soldier relating to a rescue in the Congo. I found no additional material.

Aside from SLA Marshall, there were many references to Canadian historian Gwynne Dyer.

From an academic perspective, a hard (or soft) copy of this book is recommended - there are many quotable passages and learning points that could be referenced.

From a non-academic perspective, the audio book is suitable.

The Profession of Arms

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The emotional grip of this book is outstanding. The many first person accounts from various soldiers across time leaves you with an impressionable afterthought into the realism and cost involved with killing. The author digs deep into the psychological limitations involved with combat and it's lasting affects on society.

Outstanding.

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Wow just wow. If more people read this and understood this then there may be a way for future generations to thrive. Sadly this will not be the case…

Everyone on the planet needs to read this

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Don’t be turned off by Lt Col Grossman’s narration. At first it was difficult for me to listen to as he has a somewhat strange rhythm and inflection to his speech. Perhaps it’s my Canadian ear. The content however is immediately interesting to anyone that has grown up watching war movies and playing video games that feature killing. The first hand accounts of the trauma inflicted on soldiers is sometimes quite heartbreaking. It will definitely give you a new empathy for them. It will also make you pay attention to what media you consume and what you might let your children consume. Recommended highly

A sensible eye opener

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Interesting and engaging for the military member with an interest in military psychology. The author narrates to make a superior audiobook.

Smashing book and great narration

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