I am so excited to welcome back my dear friend Jennifer Watson, who originally joined us back on episode 42 with her book Freedom. Today, she’s back to talk about her brand-new book,What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think? Finding Courage and Confidence When Life Gets Messy—and wow, is this message timely as we head into the fast, chaotic holiday season.

Jennifer is a writer, podcaster, mama of two adult daughters, and a passionate advocate for mental health and real-life faith. In this powerful and honest conversation, we talk about what it really looks like to walk through depression, seasonal struggles, shame spirals, counseling, community, and the courage it takes to ask for help.

✨ In This Episode, We Talk About:

• Why mental health struggles are inevitable in a chaotic world

• The dangerous cycle of the shame spiral

• Jennifer’s personal journey with seasonal depression and seeking medical help

• Why getting help is not weakness—it’s bravery

• How the church can better support mental health

• The power of community and counseling

• Walking with children and teens through anxiety and depression

• Writing from the messy middle, not just the healed place

• Why women need spaces that go deeper than small talk

• Scriptures that anchored Jennifer in her darkest seasons

• A gentle but powerful truth: You are doing better than you think.

This episode is full of hope for anyone who feels like they’re barely holding it together—and a reminder that you might be doing so much better than you think.

Bio:

Jennifer Renee Watson is a fierce advocate for mental health and abuse survivors who are bravely healing from unresolved trauma and finding their voice. She is the cohost of the More Than Small Talk Podcast, and has spoken at churches and conferences all over the US.

Anchor Verses:

Psalm 34:18

Isaiah 40:31

Connect with Jennifer:

Website: www.jenniferreneewatson.com

FB: https://www.instagram.com/jenniferwatson/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/jenniferwatson/

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