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90 Miles from Needles: the Desert Protection Podcast

90 Miles from Needles: the Desert Protection Podcast

Auteur(s): Chris Clarke
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Join Chris Clarke and a variety of guests as they explore the challenges and opportunities of the American Southwest's fragile ecosystems. Engaging interviews with experts, activists, and advocates on conservation, land management, and environmental justice. Science and sentiment, politics and philosophy, hiking and history, culture and creativity all go into defending the desert. Be forewarned: We are out to recruit you to the cause.

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  • S4E32: Joshua Trees are Still Caught in the Climate Crossfire
    Aug 23 2025

    In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke dives into recent legislative developments surrounding the protection of the iconic Western Joshua Tree in California. The conversation highlights the intricacies of conservation laws, the intricate process of implementing these policies, and the pushback from various stakeholders navigating this environmental directive. The discussion is enriched with insights from returning guest Brendan Cummings of the Center for Biological Diversity, who shares his expertise on species protection under the California Endangered Species Act.

    The episode provides a comprehensive update on the California Fish and Game Commission's approval of the Western Joshua Tree Conservation Plan. This plan is required by the Western Joshua Tree Conservation Act passed in 2023, seeking to protect Joshua trees threatened by climate change, development, and wildfires. Cummings, who was pivotal in initiating the process by petitioning to protect the Western Joshua Tree in 2019, offers an in-depth exploration of the process, the challenges faced, and the compromise built into the legislation.

    Listeners are encouraged to stay tuned for the episode's conclusion, featuring the moving song "Joshua Tree" by Melanie Marshall, which thematically underscores the significance of preserving this desert species.

    Key Takeaways:

    Western Joshua Tree Conservation Act: The act passed in 2023 addresses climate change threats and simplifies permits for relocating or removing Joshua Trees, aiming for the species' long-term survival by 2033.

    Collaboration and Compromise: The passing of protections involved compromise between environmentalists and industries, balanced by setting more straightforward processes for developers and prioritizing protection through coordinated conservational efforts.

    Adapting to Climate Threats: The Conservation Plan identifies climate threats, prioritizing refugia and high-elevation areas for sustained Joshua Tree populations, with a focus on reducing invasive species and fire risks.

    Community and Tribal Involvement: Engagement with local governments and Native American tribes plays a significant role in implementing conservation methods, highlighting cultural ties to the land and species.

    Future Directions: By 2033, effectiveness will be reassessed, potentially reconsidering the species' threataned status if current measures do not mitigate the threats effectively.

    Notable Quotes:

    Brendan Cummings: "The Western Joshua Tree Conservation act signed into law in July 2023 was the first state law by California that recognized the climate threat to biodiversity."

    Brendan Cummings: "The goal was to protect the species and to ensure Joshua trees continue to be a part of our desert communities."

    Brendan Cummings: "The overriding threat, of course, is climate change. We also have increased fires fueled by invasive grasses, and then the most immediate threat, which is Joshua trees getting chopped down."

    Robert Gomez: "I want to look at the cultural aspect of the Joshua Tree for our particular tribe… It means a lot to us."

    Brendan Cummings: "We can hopefully figure out how to reduce the impacts or frequency of fire in Joshua tree habitat, but we're not going to stop it."

    Resources:

    Center for Biological Diversity: https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/

    California Department of Fish and Wildlife: https://wildlife.ca.gov/Conservation/Environmental-Review/WJT/WJTCA

    Melanie Marshall's Music: https://soundcloud.com/melaniemarshallmusic

    Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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    50 min
  • S4E31: 5 Years On: Cima Dome After the Flames
    Aug 15 2025

    Host Chris Clarke delves into the profound impact of the Dome Fire on the cherished Joshua Tree forest within the Mojave National Preserve. Marking the five-year anniversary of the Dome Fire, Clarke reflects on personal experiences and the broader ecological ramifications. The devastating event shifted his life, carving a definitive "before" and "after" in his approach to desert protection. Listeners are taken on an emotional journey through the charred landscape of Cima Dome, providing striking narratives about recovery efforts and the ongoing challenges posed by invasive species like cheatgrass and red brome.

    Clarke's introspection includes insights from Cima Dome experts like Drew Kaiser and Debra Hughson. They highlight both the devastation wrought by the Dome Fire and the collaborative restoration efforts underway. The episode serves as both a sobering reminder of what has been lost and a hopeful testament to resilience in the face of environmental upheaval.

    Key Takeaways:

    • The Dome Fire of 2020 dramatically altered the landscape of the Joshua tree forest, marking a pivotal moment of change for environmental activists like Chris Clarke.
    • Restorative efforts in the Mojave National Preserve highlight the complexities of ecosystem recovery, facing challenges from invasive species such as red brome and cheatgrass.
    • Personal and ecological narratives intertwine as Clarke discusses the grief of environmental loss and the slow process of healing for the affected landscapes.
    • The episode underscores the importance of maintaining awareness of environmental destruction while finding hope and actionable paths for positive change.
    • Clarke explores the idea of "solastalgia," feeling deep nostalgia and loss for a place he once knew as both an environmentalist and a deeply connected individual.

    Notable Quotes:

    1. "Every time I come back here, it looks worse. The memories of how it used to be become more clear and more ever present in my mind."
    2. "I feel as if I'm visiting someone that I have loved for a long time in hospice after all of their brain activity has ended."
    3. "When I die, I want to be burned to ash and I want the people that love me to bring those ashes here."
    4. "My being around to see it, if you take that literally, is a choice on my part. And I'm not sure why I keep coming back."

    Resources:

    • 90 Miles From Needles Podcast website: https://www.90milesfromneedles.com/
    • Mojave National Preserve web page on the Dome Fire: https://www.nps.gov/moja/learn/nature/dome-fire.htm
    • DAMN Chihuahuan Desert Travel Fund: https://90milesfromneedles.com/elpaso

    Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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    37 min
  • S4E30: Episode 100 | Former Wildland Firefighter Ruth Nolan's Literary Mission
    Aug 9 2025

    This episode, celebrated over several parts to accommodate in-depth discussions, features a captivating final chapter with Ruth Nolan. A distinguished voice in desert poetry and a former wildland firefighter, Ruth shares her insights into the ecological challenges and intrinsic beauty of California's deserts through her evocative poetry, with themes of renewable energy impacts, wildfires, and invasive species.

    Through readings from her works such as "Ruby Mountain" and "After the Dome Fire," Ruth Nolan paints a vivid picture of the Mojave Desert's poignant struggles and enduring spirit. She invites us to reflect on the necessity of environmental vigilance and collective action through the memories of her firefighting days, close calls with nature, and poetic musings on desert life. The narrative threads courage, resilience, and reflection into a poetic tapestry that speaks to both the heart and the mind, underscoring the urgency of conservation efforts in the face of modern challenges.

    Key Takeaways:

    • Ruth Nolan emphasizes the blend of past experiences and contemporary challenges in the struggle to protect the desert, alongside her literary contributions.
    • The readings from Ruth's works highlight themes of environmental impact due to renewable energy projects and the cultural significance of desert landscapes.
    • The episode celebrates the collaboration of activists, journalists, and writers engaging in the dialogue on desert preservation.
    • The interconnectedness of art, activism, and environment is a recurring theme, urging listeners to witness both poetic and practical advocacy for desert protection.

    Notable Quotes:

    "I saw three golden eagles on the morning of an all-night mourning ceremony..." – Ruth Nolan
    "This is how you put out a fire before it has a chance to erupt into something big." – Ruth Nolan
    "We did this to ourselves, people. And we keep doing it again and again and not again." – Ruth Nolan
    "Look for the small things. A wisp of sultry smoke... This is where it will stop." – Ruth Nolan
    "We have to love it. But we also know there's a lot of darkness." – Ruth Nolan

    Resources:

    "Ruby Mountain" by Ruth Nolan
    "No Place for a Puritan: The Literature of California's Deserts"
    "Fire and Rain: Eco Poetry of California"

    Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate

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    22 min
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