"In the blink of a crinkling eye, I'm sinking, our fingers entwined." This week, we're deep diving one of The Tortured Poets Department's most nostalgic and playful tracks: "So High School." We explore how this Aaron Dessner collaboration captures the giddiness of adult romance that feels refreshingly simple and unguarded—like being transported back to those butterflies-in-your-stomach moments of teenage crushes. From twinkling lights to truth or dare, we unpack how Taylor Swift uses high school imagery not to describe where she is, but how love makes her feel. Spoiler: we giggle our way through this episode like the high schoolers we once were.

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Mentioned in this episode:

High School Musical

American Pie

A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle

The Hills

Clueless

"So Yesterday" by Hilary Duff

Travis Kelce's New Heights podcast appearance with Taylor Swift

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Episode Highlights

[00:01] Introduction and continuation from the High School vs. High School Musical debate

[04:16] Breaking down the title: "So High School"

[16:03] "Tell me about the first time you saw me"

[25:08] "I'm watching American Pie with you on a Saturday night"

[39:02] "You know how to ball, I know Aristotle"

[48:46] No bridge? The structure of "So High School"

[50:18] Purpose discussion: Evoking feelings vs. lived experience

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"I'm not a princess, this ain't a fairy tale." What happens when we look at Taylor Swift's music through the lens of high school—specifically, the cultural phenomenon that is “High School Musical”? This week, we explore how adolescence shapes storytelling in literature, film, and music. From the fairy tale expectations in "White Horse" to the transformative power of "Change" to the nostalgia of "So High School," we discuss how Taylor's perspective on high school has evolved over time, and why these coming-of-age narratives continue to resonate across generations.

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Mentioned in this episode:

High School Musical (2006)

The Catcher in the Rye, J.D. Salinger

A Separate Peace, John Knowles

The Perks of Being a Wallflower, Stephen Chbosky

The Breakfast Club

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Episode Highlights

[01:08] Why High School Musical?

[02:42] Adolescence as a theme in literature

[07:22] "White Horse" and Gabriella's fairy tale

[20:09] "Change" and high school transformation

[29:20] "So High School" and looking at teenage love as an adult

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"How did a made-for-TV Disney Channel movie become the defining musical of a generation?"

This month on After School, we're discussing High School Musical, the 2006 Disney Channel original movie that launched a thousand basketball-playing singers and made "Get Your Head in the Game" an iconic song. For this bonus episode for paid subscribers, we dive deep into why this cheesy, swoopy-haired phenomenon resonated so strongly with millennials and continues to trend with Gen Z today.

From the cultural timing of musicals' renaissance to the universal themes of fitting in while staying true to yourself, we explore what made High School Musical iconic. We discuss the movie's connection to the broader musical theater landscape of the early 2000s, the genius of making a musical about musicals, and why Zac Efron's portrayal of Troy Bolton became the heartthrob template for a generation.

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