The meeting focused on the concerning rise in animal shelter deaths since the pandemic, reversing decades of progress in the no-kill movement, with factors like housing challenges and veterinary costs contributing to the crisis. Discussions covered the challenges in spay and neuter access, the impact of trap-neuter-release programs, and the issues surrounding backyard breeding and breed-specific legislation. The conversation concluded with an emphasis on fostering dogs as a way to help shelters, community engagement, and the importance of supporting local shelters through various means.

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The meeting focused on disaster preparedness for pets and livestock, with Celia Jackson, a disaster management expert, sharing her extensive experience in emergency response and pet safety. The discussion covered essential preparations for pets including food, water, medical records, and identification methods, while also addressing evacuation plans for larger animals and livestock. Celia emphasized the importance of personal preparedness, local emergency planning, and volunteer involvement in animal disaster response, highlighting both progress made and ongoing challenges in ensuring pet safety during crises.

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Peggy interviewed Scott Fine, founder of Joey's Legacy, a nonprofit organization that helps pet parents seek justice and healing after veterinary malpractice incidents. Through their network of over 5,500 members and resources including animal law attorneys and veterinarians, Joey's Legacy has assisted thousands of pet owners over the past nine years. The organization addresses issues with a minority of problematic veterinarians while advocating for reforms in veterinary boards and providing financial assistance through Nebula's Foundation for those pursuing legal

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