Junior roles in AI-exposed fields are disappearing fast.

The obvious culprit is AI rapidly automating entry-level jobs. And yet, this isn't quite right. What is driving the drop is managers’ expectations about what AI will do, not the work that it's already replacing.

I discussed this with Ben Zweig of Revelio Labs, which builds global workforce data from millions of individual profiles to track hiring, separations and job flows. Their data shows how expectation and uncertainty are reshaping the market.

Together, we explored the future of work and shared practical advice for new grads.

We covered:

(01:15) What's happening in the labor market?

(05:27) The inherent complexity of the labor market

(06:24) How Revelio Labs captures labor market data

(08:39) "The Canary in the Coal Mine"

(11:52) Who does AI exposure harm the most?

(13:01) How AI anticipation is harming the job market

(15:15) Testing the expectation mismatch hypothesis

(17:30) Could AI be creating more jobs?

(20:44) Breaking down jobs into smaller tasks

(27:33) Why large companies struggle to reorganize

(30:35) Focus on creating adaptive, flexible roles

(36:03) Managing AI's increasing capability

(39:11) What entry-level workers need to do

Where to find me:

- Exponential View newsletter: https://www.exponentialview.co/

- Website: https://www.azeemazhar.com/

- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/azhar

- Twitter/X: https://x.com/azeem

Where to find Ben:

- https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-zweig/

- Twitter/X: https://x.com/BJZweig

- Revelio Labs: https://www.reveliolabs.com/

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The AI boom isn’t just about chatbots.

In this video, I explain why cloud companies and chipmakers are exploding in value: we’re moving into an economy where computation becomes a fundamental input – like steel, electricity or oil.

If that’s true, our demand for compute could approach infinity.

I also break down new data from Wharton’s 2025 AI Adoption Report, which shows how AI agents and automated workflows are already spreading through major U.S. companies: https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/special-report/2025-ai-adoption-report/

Timestamps:

(00:00) The economic shift to computation (00:40) The surprising Cloud business boom (02:52) Is the hardware industry growth a bubble? (03:18) What is computing, really? (04:31) Our insatiable appetite for computing (09:15) Our economic dependence on computation (10:54) The rise of agentic workforces (13:05) What does infinite demand actually mean? (15:23) The future of compute demand

Where to find me:

• Exponential View newsletter: https://www.exponentialview.co/
• Website: https://www.azeemazhar.com/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/azhar
• Twitter/X: https://x.com/azeem

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In this episode, I speak with Jordan Schneider, creator of Chinatalk, to explore the new phase of US–China competition. Both countries are using trade policy, export controls and industrial strategy to shift the balance of global power. Yet, their economies remain tightly bound.

We cover:

(01:34) The US and China’s decoupling

(07:28) Why attempts to control China backfired

(08:51) Understanding the Oct. 9th rare Earth rules

(11:27) The modern iteration of Chinese communism

(14:23) Is decoupling a strategy to avoid weaponization?

(16:12) US leadership might be shooting from the hip

(19:22) Are system changes inherently messy?

(21:27) “Vibe-based” sovereignty

(26:03) AI incumbents aren’t entrenched—yet

(29:07) Why China remains focused on AI deployment

(32:45) The different versions of tech-accelerationism

(33:37) How will societies withstand rapid change?

(36:54) What the West can learn from China

(40:10) Where China is most misunderstood

(43:14) Imagining an improved US-China relationship

Where to find Jordan:

• Substack: https://substack.com/@chinatalk
• YouTube: @ChinaTalkMedia‬
• Linkedin: / jorschneider
• X: https://x.com/jordanschnyc

Where to find me:

• Substack: https://www.exponentialview.co/
• Website: https://www.azeemazhar.com/
• LinkedIn:/ azhar
• X: https://x.com/azeem

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