Prevention tools are essential, but have their limits; no one can prevent every breach. Readiness determines how quickly and effectively you regain control once it happens.

Tabletop exercises, crisis playbooks, and decision-making drills are the true differentiators.

Nachshon Pincu hosts Mark Korman, Chief Legal and Strategy Officer at Critical-Impact, an incident response company, in a conversation about cyber crisis

Investing in Readiness, Not Just Prevention

The Paradox: Tech Is Better, Attacks Are Worse, and the AI game changer for good and for bad

Data Leaks and Privacy with the 13th Amendment and more

In this episode, Craig and Dino tackle IT/OT convergence, operational technology security, and manufacturing cybersecurity challenges head-on.

They challenge the notion of OT being a "shadow IT group" and explore the fundamental differences between IT and OT operations in industrial environments.

The discussion emphasizes that OT focuses on safety and physical outcomes, while IT prioritizes data security.

They stress the importance of collaboration between IT and OT teams, highlighting how system integrators, OEMs, and plant operators must work together to improve cybersecurity posture.

The conversation covers practical issues like Overall Equipment Effectiveness (OEE), incident response, and the need for proper funding and governance.

Both advocate for CISOs and CIOs to actively engage with OT teams and system integrators, visit manufacturing facilities, and understand the unique challenges of industrial control systems to achieve true convergence and protect manufacturing plants and critical infrastructure.

Chapters:

• 00:00:00 - Opening Shot: Who’s Really in Charge—CIOs or the Plant Floor?
• 00:00:57 - Collision Course: IT and OT Can’t Keep Dodging Each Other
• 00:01:52 - Two Worlds, One Mission: Why OT Isn’t Just “IT in a Hard Hat”
• 00:04:07 - When Convergence Fails: What’s Missing in the Middle
• 00:05:54 - Breaking Silos: Why Cybersecurity Demands True Collaboration
• 00:08:22 - Real Talk: What Cyber Protection Looks Like on the Plant Floor
• 00:10:46 - OT’s Tipping Point: Will the Next Move Come from IT, or the Shop Floor?
• 00:17:32 - Your Move: What Leaders Must Do Next (Before It’s Too Late)

Links And Resources:

• Industrial Cybersecurity Insider on LinkedIn
• Cybersecurity & Digital Safety on LinkedIn
• BW Design Group Cybersecurity
• Dino Busalachi on LinkedIn
• Craig Duckworth on LinkedIn

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At Black Hat USA 2025, Noam Moshe from Claroty’s Team 82 revealed several vulnerabilities in Axis Communications’ IP camera systems, including a deserialization flaw that could let attackers run remote code. The team worked with Axis to patch the issues. Moshe says that this case highlights the broader security risks still common in the billions of common IoT devices in the world today.