Shari and Brent sit down with Dr. Rod Berger, an organizational psychologist, bestselling author, and master storyteller. But this isn’t your typical sales podcast - forget the tips and tricks. Instead, you'll hear deep reflections on the stories we tell ourselves, and how those narratives shape both our relationships and our own self-perception.

From anecdotes about his childhood and the fuel behind his curiosity to pinch-me moments like interviewing everyone from Pope Francis to Magic Johnson, Rod shares how authentic storytelling can open doors and strengthen human connection. Brent and Shari challenge the notion that selling is only about hitting targets, reminding everyone that “better people make better salespeople.”

If you’re ready for a heartfelt conversation that’ll make you both feel and think, this episode is for you. Grab your headphones, and let’s dive in.

👤 Connect with Dr. Rod Berger:

✅ “The Narrative Edge” Book:https://geni.us/DrRodBergerNarrative

✅ Website: https://www.drrodberger.com/

✅ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rodbergerpsyd

✅ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@drrodberger/videos

✅ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drrodberger/

👤 Connect with Selling Isn’t Everything:

✅ Official: https://SellingIsntEverything.com

✅ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SellingIsntEverything

✅ LinkedIn (Shari): https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharilevitin

✅ LinkedIn (Brent): https://www.linkedin.com/in/brentadamson

✅ Brent’s Latest Book, The Framemaking Sale: https://www.theframemakingsale.com/

Selling Isn’t Everything is produced by Chris Stone at Cast Ahead: https://CastAhead.net