Author Addie Zierman talks about her complicated relationship with Christianity now and why she stepped back from writing publicly for several years. Audio drama creator Lizzie Goldsmith and voiceover artist Aria Sivick join her to reminisce about one of the most memorable scenes from episode 4, and our favorite memories from the audio drama Listening Party in 2019. Join us for one more trip down memory lane as we talk about the past, present, and future of our spiritual and creative journeys.

Learn more about Rachel Held Evans and her legacy. We also mentioned the Camino de Santiago pilgrimage.

This full-cast audio drama is based on the book When We Were on Fire: A Memoir of Consuming Faith, Tangled Love, and Starting Over by Addie Zierman, and was dramatized, directed, produced, and sound designed by Lizzie Goldsmith. You can reach Lizzie at lizziegoldsmithproductions@gmail.com

Original music was composed by Frank Sheffield. Podcast cover art by Skylar White. Full credits for this podcast are here.

You can find out more about this production and the cast and crew at whenwewereonfirepodcast.com, as well as on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube.

Follow Addie’s work at addiezierman.com and addiezierman.substack.com, and stay in touch with Aria at ariasvoice.com

Special thanks to Addie Zierman, Aria Sivick, Miranda Gardner, and the S.I. Newhouse School of Public Communications at Syracuse University.

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