Runako’s producer Saskia visits Hamm, West Germany, site of the world's largest herpetology fair to uncover what types of people buy, or sometimes smuggle, animals and animal products–and why they do it. Whether seeking exotic pets, aphrodisiacs, or hangover cures, the global demand for animal parts persists, as do the shady legal loopholes that allow the trade to flourish.

CREDITS

Executive Produced by: Drake, Adel “Future” Nur, Peter Nelson, Maggie Gilbride (DreamCrew Entertainment); Coral Lee (Luminary); Max O’Brien (Novel); Mauricio Gris and Alex Farquharson (Thread Studios)

Host - Runako Celina

Producer - Saskia Collette

Additional Production - Julian Manuguerra-Patten and Jake Otajovic

Researcher - Madeleine Parr

Editor - Mythili Rao

Original Music Composer - Jake Long

Music Supervisor - Nicholas Alexander

Sound Designer and Mixer - David Smith

Fact Checker - Dania Suleman

Voice of Wolf - Ivan Ivashkin

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