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Auteur(s): Ria Windcaller: Award-winning Cidermaker Podcaster | Craft Beer Columnist
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Interviewing cidermakers importers, orchardists, foodies, farmers and cider enthusiasts around the world. Let’s delve into the semantics of cider…or is it hard cider, cidre, sidra or fermented apple juice? The truth is out there in Ciderville and we are going to find it. We toast in celebration of cider; As a libation, a gift from the gods, a taste of terroir, and a hard pressed good time. Ready to quench your thirst? Grab a glass and join this chat! See you in Ciderville!© Cider Chat 2014- 2025 Art Essais et carnets de voyage Nourriture et vin Sciences sociales
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  • 467: Canton Apples and Frosty Twig: New York Cider Makers Unite
    Aug 13 2025
    How Canton Apples and Frosty Twig Fused Two Brands into One

    In New York’s “North of Upstate” region, in the town of Canton is the Canton Apples production building. It is now also home of a partnership shaping the local cider scene. Owner Joel Howie and cider maker Dan Gallagher live just a mile apart, and their skills mesh perfectly. Joel brings over a decade of experience growing apples, pressing sweet cider, and creating value-added products. Dan, a passionate fermenter, was ready to move beyond hobby scale when the two connected.

    Two Brands, One Vision

    Under Canton Apples & Cider, LLC, two product lines take shape:

    • Canton Apples – approachable, consistent ciders for everyday enjoyment.
    Joel Howie
    • Frosty Twig – small-batch, specialty ciders showcasing unique apples, fruits, and wild fermentation.
    Dan Gallagher

    Production takes place in a purpose-built facility designed for growth, with future plans for a taproom overlooking the orchard.

    Orchard Practices & Apple Diversity

    Between their combined orchards, Joel and Dan care for over 250 apple varieties — many planted by Bill McKentley of St. Lawrence Nurseries. These heritage and cold-hardy apples thrive in Zone 4, and every apple grown is put to use. When supplies run short, apples are sourced from other New York regions.

    Cider Making Approach

    Ciders range from wild-fermented pet-nats to cultured yeast ferments for consistency. Specialty ciders include

    • Turkey Tree
    • Wild Berry
    • Pear cider

    Most ciders age 9–10 months before release, allowing flavors to develop naturally.

    Canton Apples cider and Frosty Twig Cider series Contact info for Canton Apples
    • Website: https://cantonapples.com
    Mentions in this Cider Chat
    • Totally Cider Tour_UK Edition 2025
      • Sign up for the “early-to-know” wait list for upcoming 2026 Totally Cider Tours
        • Let us know how many in your party
    • Vermont and New York Cider Road Trip series
      • Part 1- 464: Czech Cider: From Roadside Apples to Cellar Ferments
      • Part 2 –465: The Integrated Table: Cider, Food, and Farming at 1000 Stone Farm
      • Part 3 – 466: Growing Cold-Hardy Trees at Saint Lawrence Nursery | NY
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    1 h et 25 min
  • 466: Growing Cold-Hardy Trees at Saint Lawrence Nursery | NY
    Jul 30 2025
    A Century of Cold-Hardy Trees

    Saint Lawrence Nursery in Potsdam, NY, has been helping cold-climate growers find success since the 1920s. Originally founded by Fred Ashworth and later expanded by Bill MacKentley, the nursery is now stewarded by Connor and Allyssa Hardiman, the third generation in a nonfamilial succession.

    What Sets Saint Lawrence Nursery Apart

    Cold-Hardy Genetics

    • Over 250 apple varieties
    • Trialed at temperatures as low as -34°F
    • Trees that thrive from Alaska to Michigan

    Only Standard Rootstock

    • Seedling Antonovka (apples) and Baccata (crabs) for resilience and longevity
    • Trees that can live 100+ years

    More Than Apples

    • Black walnuts, butternuts, hazelnuts, and berry bushes
    • Custom grafting for heirloom preservation
    • Regionally adapted selections from partnerships and testing plots
    Passing the Torch of Generational Wisdom and Branding

    The nursery was handed down without a sale. It was gifted by Bill to Connor in a rare act of agricultural generosity. The plan is to do the same one day. “Love is what makes the world go ’round,” Bill often says, and it’s embedded in every tree tag and planting guide.

    Cold Hardy Trees For Orchardists and Backyard Growers

    Most customers are small-scale planters or long-time loyalists. Whether you want just one tree to honor a grandparent or 100 cider apples for a startup orchard, Connor and Allyssa are here to help—with personal attention, a rich planting guide, and an option to let them choose the right tree for you.

    Contact Info for Saint Lawrence Nursery
    • Website: https://www.slngrow.com/
    Mentions in this Cider Chat
    • Listen to Bill MacKentley’s speach at New York Apple Camp 2023 391: Test Winters & Climate w/Saint Lawrence Nurseries (NY) Founder
    • Totally Cider Tours
    • Patrick McCauley Episode Feature – 302 Washtenaw County Cider Mille 1841- Today
    • Topsoil Magazine
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    1 h et 18 min
  • 465: The Integrated Table: Cider, Food, and Farming at 1000 Stone Farm
    Jul 16 2025
    From Farm to Glass: Cider at 1000 Stone Farm

    At 1000 Stone Farm in Brookfield, Vermont, Kyle Doda and Betsy Simpson have built a dynamic model that unites organic farming, community-supported agriculture, small-batch cider. First came the farm and then over ten years, the couple expanded their offerings to include fruit trees, livestock, mushrooms, and now a seasonal restaurant and tasting room: The Farmers Hand Cider House & Kitchen. Besty is the Chef and a graduate of the Culinary Institue of Arts in New York.

    Besty Simpson and Kyle Doda The Orchard & Philosophy

    Situated between 1,400–1,700 feet in elevation, the farm grows:

    • Over 60 varieties of apples
    • Plums, peaches, cherries, and Perry Pears
    • Herbs interplanted with vegetables and orchard rows
    • Livestock including lamb, pork, beef, and poultry
    • And there is a dedicate grow space for a mushroom buisness

    Fruit is fermented on-site with minimal sulfites, both neutral and spirit oak barrels, and some filtered fresh juice for back-sweetening. The cidery prioritizes clean expressions of fruit and soil.

    Ciders Tasted During this Recording
    • Volume One – Off-dry, barrel-aged, lightly back-sweetened
    • Volume Two – Dry blend with Winesap, Kingston Black, Northern Spy
    • Volume Three – Porter’s Perfection and Ashmead’s Kernel
    • Tomcat – Gin barrel-aged cider, 10% ABV
    • Graf – A farmhouse cider-beer hybrid aged in oak
    Gathering at The Farmers Hand

    Open seasonally, The Farmers Hand Cider House & Kitchen features hyperlocal meals built around the farm’s own produce and meats. The space invites locals and visitors to connect over cider, community, and shared tables.

    There is seating at the bar and also outside on a brand new patio for the 2025 season.

    Contact Info for 1000 Stone Farm and The Farmers Hand Cider House & Kitchen
    • Website: https://www.1000stonefarm.com
    • Farm Store: Open daily, 8am–8pm (self-serve)
    • The Farmers Hand: Seasonal hours; check website or Instagram for updates
      • June through December Fridays 1-8pm & Saturdays 1-8pm
    • Location: Brookfield, Vermont
    What is 1000 Stone Farm? What is The Farmers Hand Cider House & Kitchen? Can I visit the farm or tasting room? What kinds of cider are made at the farm? Who makes the food and cider? Mentions in this Cider Chat
    • Totally Cider Tours UK_Edition 2025
    • Wolfkin Cider, Seattle Cider
    • 375: Cider’s Low Carbon Footprint | Wildbranch Cider, Vermont – Cedar Hannan
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    1 h et 21 min
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