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Cider Chat

Cider Chat

Auteur(s): Ria Windcaller: Award-winning Cidermaker Podcaster | Craft Beer Columnist
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 Interviewing cidermakers importers, orchardists, foodies, farmers and cider enthusiasts around the world. Let's delve into the semantics of cider…or is it hard cider, cidre, sidra or fermented apple juice? The truth is out there in Ciderville and we are going to find it. We toast in celebration of cider; As a libation, a gift from the gods, a taste of terroir, and a hard pressed good time. Ready to quench your thirst? Grab a glass and join this chat! See you in Ciderville!© Cider Chat 2014- 2025 Art Essais et carnets de voyage Nourriture et vin Sciences sociales
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  • 480: Holiday Cider Gift Guide 2025 and Playing with Pommeau

    480: Holiday Cider Gift Guide 2025 and Playing with Pommeau
    Dec 3 2025

    00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview

    00:32 French Pronunciation Fun

    02:27 Holiday Gift Ideas for 2025

    02:59 Cider Chat News and Updates

    04:42 Listener Stories and Experiences

    07:49 Upcoming UK Cider Tour 2026

    12:47 Featured Presentation: 2025 Holiday Cider Gift Guide

    13:35 Cider Chat Partners and Supporters

    25:30 Stocking Stuffer Tips and Cider Supplies

    31:36 The Perfect Name for American Pommeau

    45:24 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    00:00 Introduction and Language Fun

    00:14 Cider Chat Episode 480 Overview

    01:10 Naming Poot in America

    02:27 Holiday Gift Ideas for 2025

    02:59 Cider Chat News and Updates

    03:08 New Patron and Michelin Star Connection

    04:42 Michael of Edulis Cider Journey

    06:25 Rising Costs of Starting a Cidery

    07:49 Blossom Time Tour 2026

    12:47 Holiday Cider Gift Guide

    13:35 Cider Chat Partners and Supporters

    25:30 Stocking Stuffers and Cider Supplies

    31:36 The Perfect Name for American Pommeau

    41:32 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    Find full episode show notes and links at https:ciderchat.com
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    47 min
  • 479: New York Cider Fest | Audio Snapshots

    479: New York Cider Fest | Audio Snapshots
    Nov 26 2025

    New York Cider Fest 2025 brought together makers and enthusiasts for an unforgettable day at City Winery Manhattan. In this special collection of on-the-floor recordings, Cider Chat® captures Audio Snap Shots with festival patrons.

    Hear how attendees at the New York Cider Fest are viewing cider today — what styles they're excited about, how they're drinking it, and the foods they love to pair with a glass, including their favorite Thanksgiving matches.

    Episode Timeline

    00:00 Introduction to Cider Chat

    02:34 Exciting News: Totally Cider Tours

    10:21 Feature Presentation: New York Cider Fest

    12:24 Listener Snapshots: Cider Enthusiasts Share Their Stories

    18:45 Exploring Cider Pairings and Preferences

    19:22 Cider Travels and Discoveries

    25:17 Food Influencers at Cider Fest

    28:05 Meet the Food Bloggers

    28:35 Kylie and JJ's Cider Journey

    32:30 Katie's Fruity Cider Favorites

    39:09 AJ's Tequila and Cider Combo

    42:22 Adventurous Ashley's Cider Travels

    45:48 Cider's Growing Popularity

    47:56 Join the UK Cider Tour

    49:20 Cider Song Finale

    Contact info for the New York Cider Fest
    • The New York Cider Association hosts this annual event – go to their website at https://www.newyorkciderassociation.com/
    Mentions in this Cider Chat
    • 2026 Blossom Time Totally Cider Tour April 27th – May3rd
    • Guest Instagram accounts on this episode
      • @roommatesfeasting
      • @fontanas_food
      • @adventuressashley
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    52 min
  • 478: Pommeau: What Happens When a French Classic Lands on U.S. Labels

    478: Pommeau: What Happens When a French Classic Lands on U.S. Labels
    Nov 19 2025
    What is Pommeau? Pommeau is a: fortified blend of fresh apple must (unfermented) and apple brandy (typically Calvados in Normandy or Lambig in Brittany). The unfermented apple juice and brandy are combined before fermentation, which halts the process entirely and preserves natural sweetness. By law in France, Pommeau must be aged a minimum of 18 months in oak and produced within designated regions. It's rich, amber-colored, and served as an apéritif. It is consider to be a French heritage drink shaped by decades of refinement and protected standards. When did Pommeau receive AOC status? Pommeau received its official Appellation d'Origine Contrôlée (AOC) status in 1991, formalizing the traditional method and legally protecting what can and cannot be called Pommeau within France. And in America? If you ask what Pommeau is in the United States, the answer is: nothing defined. There is no legal TTB definition, no standard of identity, and no trade agreement protecting the name. Yet hundreds of U.S. labels already use the word…sometimes accurately, sometimes loosely, often inconsistently. So the question becomes, "What happens when a French classic with strict rules lands on U.S. labels with no rules at all?" That's the conversation American isn't having… yet. In this episode, Ria speaks with alcohol beverage attorney Lindsey Zahn to unpack what it means to use the word Pommeau in the U.S.—legally, culturally, ethically—and what cider makers and consumers should consider going forward. What happens when a French classic with strict rules lands on U.S. labels with no rules at all? That's the conversation America isn't having… yet. In this episode, Ria speaks with alcohol beverage attorney Lindsey Zahn to unpack what it means to use the word Pommeau in the U.S.—legally, culturally, ethically—and what cider makers and consumers should consider going forward. Key Topics Covered What Pommeau legally means in FranceWhy the TTB has no definition for PommeauHow hundreds of U.S. labels were approved without consistencyThe difference between fortified cider vs. PommeauWhy a COLA approval does not protect you from trademark or trade disputesU.S.–EU trade agreements and why Pommeau is not protectedRisks for current makers using "Pommeau" on labelsWhy "American Pommeau," "Pommeau-style," or accurate class/type statements may reduce riskThe opportunity for U.S. cider associations to create a new American termA call for a naming contest—what the U.S. cider world could build togetherWhy truth in labeling matters beyond regulatory complianceWhy this conversation needed to happen…ten years ago Contact info for Lindsey Zahn P.C. Website: https://www.zahnlawpc.comPrevious Cider Chat episode with Lindsey : Episode 85 Lindsey Zahn on Cider LawTTB Labeling Resources: https://www.ttb.gov 00:00 Introduction and Common Misconceptions 00:23 Meet the Host and Guest 01:35 Episode Overview: Focus on Pommeau 03:13 Cider Tours Announcement 06:58 Listener Support and Sponsors 08:40 Main Discussion: Legal Aspects of Pommeau 25:34 Trademark Rights and Labeling Concerns 27:34 The Importance of Due Diligence in Labeling 28:46 Pomo: A Gray Area in Cider Labeling 30:30 Alternatives to Using 'Pomo' 32:36 Truth in Labeling and Production Methods 36:08 Advice for Cider Producers 38:39 Role of Cider Associations 46:08 Final Thoughts and Call to Action Mentions in this Cider Chat Totally Cider Tours
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    51 min
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