Steve and Norm opened the episode by expressing condolences and prayers for Charlie Kirk's family, acknowledging the horror and shock felt across the country. In their words, it’s hard to recall a public event as devastating in recent memory. Whether you followed Kirk closely or not, his tragic death is a moment for national reflection.

The conversation pushed past media narratives and social media short clips to consider Kirk’s legacy—his pioneering work in independent media, his faith, and, most notably, his commitment to respectful dialogue. Steve emphasized Kirk’s ability to listen, concede good points in debate, and ultimately reach across divides—a reminder for all of us about the value of seeking truth and understanding, even in disagreement.

Brett encouraged listeners to watch Kirk’s long-form discussions, especially with those who disagreed with him, as a counter to selectively-edited viral moments. Before rushing to judgment on anyone, there’s wisdom in “shutting up and listening.”

Steve and Brett spent time dissecting how media and online culture can create avatars out of public figures—dehumanizing them and making “pulling the trigger” less personal. They critiqued language like “unalived” that softens the reality of murder, calling on everyone to “watch your language” and resist the drift toward dehumanization.

The podcast tackled the immediate online reactions to Kirk’s assassination: from national mourning to a reprehensible flood of celebration on social media from those who disagreed with Kirk’s views. The hosts distinguished between cancel culture—the firing and shunning of people for their beliefs—and the morally different act of celebrating cold-blooded murder.

Steve reflected on recent calls from figures like J.D. Vance to “call out” those who cheer for such violence, drawing important lines between expressing a political opinion and amplifying inhumane, hateful rhetoric.

As a criminal defense lawyer, Steve provided a clear breakdown of what happens next for Kirk’s accused killer: the arrest, initial court appearance, the roles of prosecution and defense, and the significance of due process even in the most emotional cases. The episode emphasized that while the desire for swift justice is understandable, a careful, deliberate legal process is vital to our country’s integrity.

Both hosts closed with calls for more listening, more respect, and less tribalism. In Charlie Kirk’s memory, and for the good of our country, let’s step back from celebrating division and focus on what unites us as Americans—and as people.

Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients.

Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors.

Brett Johnson, My Podcast Guy®, is an award-winning podcast consultant and small business owner for nearly 10 years, leaving a long career in radio. He is passionate about helping small businesses tell their story through podcasts, and he believes podcasting is a great...

We are joined by special guest and sponsor Glenn Harper of Harper CPA Plus Accounting to dive into the realities of taxes for Ohioans—especially small business owners.

Here are 10 key takeaways:

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4. The Impact on Small Business Owners Is Huge: Even small changes in tax policy can make or break small businesses. Tax burdens often affect whether a business owner can hire, expand, or even take a family vacation.
5. Big Corporations Vs. Small Businesses: Large companies have the resources to legally minimize U.S. tax through international maneuvers, while mom-and-pop shops don’t have that luxury and feel the pinch more intensely.
6. Tariffs Are Nothing New: The U.S. historically ran on tariffs before the introduction of income tax in the early 1900s. New rounds of tariffs, while politically popular, ultimately trickle down to consumers and small businesses.
7. Tax Planning Is Essential—Not Optional: Proactive planning—like setting aside half your revenue for taxes—prevents nasty surprises and helps businesses stay afloat.
8. Regulation and “Fairness” Are Ongoing Battlegrounds: Efforts to make corporations or “the rich” pay their “fair share” have ripple effects. Overregulation or unpredictable tax policies can drive businesses (and their jobs) out of high-tax states.
9. Small Business Drives the Economy: Entrepreneurs and small business owners are the engine of growth, innovation, and local employment. Policies that support or punish them have outsized effects on the broader economy.
10. Clarity and Predictability Are Critical: Uncertainty—whether over taxes or trade—discourages business investment and hiring. Recent legislative “permanence” around deductions and rates has brought needed stability but ongoing vigilance is required.

A Big Thanks to our sponsor, Harper Plus Accounting. They provide more than just basic transactions, offering expert business consultation as well. They go beyond the basics, providing comprehensive advice on saving, planning, and optimizing taxes.

Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH.

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Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients.

Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors.

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Hey everyone, quick recap from today’s Common Sense Ohio! We dove into the U.S. Navy’s strike on a narco-boat in the Caribbean, the never-ending war on drugs and how cartels are flooding in deadly fentanyl.

We also broke down Trump’s stance on fighting cartels and wrestled with executive power, immigration, and law enforcement challenges—plus the ongoing debates about parenting, boundaries, and the power of setting tough rules for success.

If you want real talk about leadership, tough calls, and what’s happening here in Ohio and beyond, this episode’s for you!

A Big Thanks to our sponsor, Harper Plus Accounting. They provide more than just basic transactions, offering expert business consultation as well. They go beyond the basics, providing comprehensive advice on saving, planning, and optimizing taxes.

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00:00 Concert Drug Use Concerns

06:22 Opioid Crisis and Government Complicity

11:33 Florida Pill Mills Chaos

15:50 "Embracing Hardships Builds Resilience"

25:48 Minnesota Church Shooting Tragedy

28:19 "Guns, Transgender Issues, and Mental Health"

32:43 "Federal Prosecutor Insights on ATF Form"

40:56 Tariffs and Court System Challenges

43:39 "Emergency Powers Overreach Concern"

52:43 Military Compliance with Illegal Orders

57:24 Self-Representation Pitfalls

01:01:19 Ohio Weekly Update

Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH.

info@commonsenseohioshow.com

Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients.

Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors.

Brett Johnson, My Podcast Guy®, is an award-winning podcast consultant and small business owner for nearly 10 years, leaving a long career in radio. He is passionate about helping small businesses tell their story through podcasts, and he believes podcasting is a great opportunity for different voices to speak and be heard.

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