In this DCL episode, we get brutally honest about entrepreneurship—discipline, delayed gratification, and the difference between goals you say you have and habits that actually match. We unpack why knowledge is the new currency (only if you apply it), the real grind behind real estate beyond Instagram highlights, and how to escape “comfortable” living that keeps you average.

You’ll hear stories about dropping out, getting kicked out, starting over, and the exact mindset shifts that turn losses into lessons. We talk mentorship, building character, faith, and why investing in yourself beats flexing every time.

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00:00 Highlights

01:09 Icklaas Background

01:59 The Entrepreneur Mindset

03:06 Kicked out: The Turning Point

04:28 Dropping out of College

06:28 Every Entrepreneur must be a student

10:13 Do your Habits align with your Goals?

11:36 Knowledge is the New Currency

15:00 Invest in Yourself

16:52 What’s Stopping you?

18:15 Ask yourself this before Starting a Business

21:03 Our Childhood in Dallas

23:41 Is School the Method for Success?

27:02 Advice for a High Schooler who wants to be Successful

28:37 Ways to get into Real Estate

34:45 Advice for those who want to get into Real Estate

38:35 The #1 Business Advice

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In this episode of DCL, I sit down in Dallas with my childhood friend Dylan, the designer behind Dis0 World. We get into why he launched the brand, building community over clout, and why there’s no blueprint for how you should live, create, or dress. We talk men’s mental health, the cost of trends, why “street money” can’t buy assets, and how to win your losses—from manufacturing delays to self-doubt.

If you’re starting a clothing line or any creative venture, this one’s for you: action over perfection, delegation, staying authentic, and falling in love with the journey.

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🎙️ DCL Podcast: (your links)

00:00 Intro

00:59 Why Dylan Started Dis0 World Clothing Brand

03:13 Advice for Those Who Want to Start a Clothing Line

04:26 The Fear of Not Living Up to Your Potential

05:49 Battling Depression & Men’s Mental Health

10:38 Music Culture Is Influencing the Youth

12:27 Why Street Money Is Pointless (You Can’t Spend It)

13:17 You Can Make Money Doing What You Love

14:09 Winning From Your Losses / “Win Your Losses”

15:52 The Challenges of Owning a Clothing Brand

18:08 Doing Everything Gets You Nowhere

19:18 Embracing Your Differences

20:41 This Wasn’t Supposed to Be Added

21:16 How We Want to Be Remembered

22:31 They Trolled Kanye Until…

24:05 Skinny vs. Baggy Jeans Trend

26:18 What Does School Really Prepare Us For?

28:31 What’s Next for Dis0 World

30:16 Success as a Brand Owner

31:13 Chasing Money Doesn’t Work Anymore

33:43 Speed Round Questions

35:04 Bogus Childhood Fits

36:11 Degrassi

37:10 Vampire Diaries

40:21 Speed Question #2

41:36 Inspiration From Anime

42:10 Message to Creatives

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In this episode of the DCL Podcast, we sit down with KCHOP — a Dallas barber, musician, and clothing brand creator — to dive into his grind, his passion for artistry, and the lessons he’s learned along the way. From cutting hair in college to launching One Dienasty clothing, and from dropping tracks to balancing multiple hustles, KCHOP opens up about the struggles of procrastination, staying authentic, and moving on his own time.

We talk about what it means to grow up as a true artist, the lessons that come with building side hustles, and how barbering shaped his journey in Dallas. KCHOP also shares his perspective on music as an art form, not just a paycheck, and breaks down the vision behind his clothing brand as he works through a major revamp. Along the way, he reflects on staying motivated through setbacks and finding balance when you have too many talents and interests pulling you in different directions.

This is a real conversation about hustle, growth, and creativity — from the perspective of someone carving his own lane and defining success on his own terms.

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00:00 Intro

00:38 How it All Started

01:52 KCHOP as an Music Artist

02:50 Why One Lane Wins

04:28 Creating on Your Own Time

05:59 Stop Caring What People Think

06:52 How KCHOP Started Cutting Hair

11:53 One Dienasty: Building a Clothing Brand

17:47 Lessons We Learned the Hard Way

21:43 What’s Next for KCHOP

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