Épisodes

  • The 'reform-courage' spectrum
    Aug 26 2025

    What does the government's reluctance to partner with the Greens reveal about its reform agenda? What do the Liberal Party's internal battles over net-zero mean for the future of conservative politics in Australia? And where does Labor sit on Mark's freshly coined 'reform-courage' spectrum?

    On this episode of Democracy Sausage, Professor Mark Kenny is joined by Jason Koutsoukis and Dr Stewart Jackson to talk about whether the government is, or can be, reformist.


    Jason Koutsoukis is a journalist and special correspondent for The Saturday Paper.


    Dr Stewart Jackson is a Senior Lecturer in the Department of Government and International Relations, with a specialisation in Australian politics, at the University of Sydney.

    Mark Kenny is the Director of the ANU Australian Studies Institute. He came to the University after a high-profile journalistic career including six years as chief political correspondent and national affairs editor for The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and The Canberra Times.


    Democracy Sausage with Mark Kenny is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pocket Casts, Google Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. We’d love to hear your feedback on this series, so send in your questions, comments or suggestions for future episodes to democracysausage@anu.edu.au.

    This podcast is produced by The Australian National University.

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    51 min
  • Let's get productive!
    Aug 19 2025

    Can we fix the tax system?


    What is good economic growth vs bad economic growth?


    And, as the government's productivity roundtable begins, how do we become more productive as a nation?


    On this episode of Democracy Sausage, Marija Taflaga enlists tax policy specialists Robert Breunig and Kristen Sobeck to help chart a productive future for Australia.


    Professor Robert Breunig is the director of the Tax and Transfer Policy Institute at the Crawford School of Public Policy, Australian National University.


    Kristen Sobeck is a Research Fellow at the Tax and Transfer Policy Institute, at the Crawford School of Public Policy, Australian National University.


    Dr Marija Taflaga is the Director of the ANU Centre for the Study of Australian Politics and a Lecturer at the ANU School of Politics and International Relations.


    Democracy Sausage with Mark Kenny is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pocket Casts, Google Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. We’d love to hear your feedback on this series, so send in your questions, comments or suggestions for future episodes to democracysausage@anu.edu.au.

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    42 min
  • In the dead centre
    Aug 12 2025

    Economist Richard Denniss joins Democracy Sausage and argues policies suffer because of our need to find the centre in any debate.


    What does pragmatism really mean for Australian politics? How do attempts at unity constrain political debate? And how do evidence, position and politics interact in policymaking?

    On this episode of Democracy Sausage, Dr Richard Denniss and Professor Mark Kenny talk about the reality of pragmatic politics.


    Richard Denniss is an economist and the Executive Director of the Australia Institute. He is also the author of Dead Centre: How political pragmatism is killing us.

    Mark Kenny is the Director of the ANU Australian Studies Institute. He came to the University after a high-profile journalistic career including six years as chief political correspondent and national affairs editor for The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and The Canberra Times.

    Democracy Sausage with Mark Kenny is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pocket Casts, Google Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. We’d love to hear your feedback on this series, so send in your questions, comments or suggestions for future episodes to democracysausage@anu.edu.au.

    This podcast is produced by The Australian National University.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    53 min
  • Moral muscle
    Aug 5 2025

    Political scientist Jill Sheppard joins Democracy Sausage to talk about the upcoming productivity roundtables, protests on starvation in Palestine and having the courage to act.


    What is a mandate and how should Labor interpret its victory? Will the upcoming productivity roundtable act as a stepping stone for action or a delegation of decision-making? And how can our politicians start to build their political and moral courage muscles?

    On this episode of Democracy Sausage, Dr Jill Sheppard joins Dr Marija Taflaga for a discussion on mandates and courage in politics.


    Jill Sheppard is a Senior Lecturer in the ANU School of Politics and International Relations. She is an investigator on several major survey studies of Australian public opinion and behaviour, including the Australian Election Study, World Values Survey, and Asian Barometer Survey.

    Marija Taflaga is the Director of the ANU Australian Politics Studies Centre and a Senior Lecturer at the ANU School of Politics and International Relations.

    Democracy Sausage with Mark Kenny is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pocket Casts, Google Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. We’d love to hear your feedback on this series, so send in your questions, comments or suggestions for future episodes to democracysausage@anu.edu.au.

    This podcast is produced by The Australian National University.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    50 min
  • Safety nets below and a roof above
    Jul 29 2025

    Political scientists Mark Riboldi and Pandanus Petter join Democracy Sausage to discuss housing policy, safety nets and the fair go.


    How do politicians talk about housing, and does it impact policy? Who are the villains (or scapegoats) in the Australian housing narrative? And what does living with dignity mean in our current society; is it universal basic income?

    On this episode of Democracy Sausage, Dr Mark Riboldi and Dr Pandanus Petter join Dr Marija Taflaga to discuss housing and social policy.


    Mark Riboldi is a Lecturer at the Business School at the University of Technolgy Sydney (UTS). Mark has previously worked as a media and policy adviser in NSW Parliament, an advocacy and communications manager at Community Legal Centres NSW, and as the collaborative research and policy manager at the Sydney Policy Lab.

    Pandanus Petter is Postdoctoral Research Fellow at the ANU School of Politics & International Relations.

    Marija Taflaga is the Director of the ANU Australian Politics Studies Centre and a Senior Lecturer at the ANU School of Politics and International Relations.

    Democracy Sausage with Mark Kenny is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pocket Casts, Google Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. We’d love to hear your feedback on this series, so send in your questions, comments or suggestions for future episodes to democracysausage@anu.edu.au.

    This podcast is produced by The Australian National University.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    40 min
  • Speaking loud and soft
    Jul 22 2025

    Security expert John Blaxland joins Democracy Sausage to talk Trump, Australia and taking a strategic approach to the relationship.


    As parliament returns and a new opposition leader in place, what can we expect the tone of the debate to be? Is the Trump administration’s approach to their allies indicative of isolationism?

    And how should Australia respond to the US request to commit to defending Taiwan?

    On this episode of Democracy Sausage, Professor John Blaxland joins Professor Mark Kenny and Dr Marija Taflaga to discuss the tone in new parliament, the US-Australia relationship and AUKUS.


    John Blaxland is Professor of International Security and Intelligence Studies in the ANU Strategic and Defence Studies Centre, and the Director of the ANU North American Liaison Office.

    Marija Taflaga is the Director of the ANU Australian Politics Studies Centre and a Senior Lecturer at the ANU School of Politics and International Relations.

    Mark Kenny is the Director of the ANU Australian Studies Institute. He came to the University after a high-profile journalistic career including six years as chief political correspondent and national affairs editor for The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and The Canberra Times.

    Democracy Sausage with Mark Kenny is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pocket Casts, Google Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. We’d love to hear your feedback on this series, so send in your questions, comments or suggestions for future episodes to democracysausage@anu.edu.au.

    This podcast is produced by The Australian National University.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    48 min
  • Pressure to act
    Jul 15 2025

    Historian Frank Bongiorno joins Democracy Sausage talk about political independence, and the pressure to be agile and take action.


    Is Albanese’s John Curtin Oration pivot-point speech on the level of Curtin’s own ‘turn to America’ or something entirely tamer?

    How will history interpret AUKUS?

    And can we expect Labor to take a bolder approach to governance this time around?


    On this episode of Democracy Sausage, Professor Frank Bongiorno joins Professor Mark Kenny and Dr Marija Taflaga to discuss the current political environment, and how you cannot stand still in response to uncertainty.


    Frank Bongiorno is a Professor at the ANU School of History. He is President of the Australian Historical Association and the Council for the Humanities, Arts and Social Sciences.

    Marija Taflaga is the Director of the ANU Australian Politics Studies Centre and a Senior Lecturer at the ANU School of Politics and International Relations.

    Mark Kenny is the Director of the ANU Australian Studies Institute. He came to the University after a high-profile journalistic career including six years as chief political correspondent and national affairs editor for The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and The Canberra Times.

    Democracy Sausage with Mark Kenny is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pocket Casts, Google Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. We’d love to hear your feedback on this series, so send in your questions, comments or suggestions for future episodes to democracysausage@anu.edu.au.

    This podcast is produced by The Australian National University.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    46 min
  • The pendulum swing
    Jul 8 2025

    The numbers are in. Pollster Shaun Ratcliff joins Democracy Sausage to dissect the latest election data and what it means for the future of #auspol.


    What do the numbers tell us about when the shift to Labor started?

    What does the fall off in the primary vote tell us about the future of our politics?

    And what’s behind young voters moving away from major parties?

    On this episode of Democracy Sausage, Dr Shaun Ratcliff joins Professor Mark Kenny and Dr Marija Taflaga to go over what the latest election data tells us about the state of our democracy.

    Shuan Ratcliff is a political scientist, survey researcher and data scientist. He is the principal at Accent Research. He is also an Honorary Associate at the University of Sydney’s US Studies Centre.

    Marija Taflaga is the Director of the ANU Australian Politics Studies Centre and a Senior Lecturer at the ANU School of Politics and International Relations.

    Mark Kenny is the Director of the ANU Australian Studies Institute. He came to the University after a high-profile journalistic career including six years as chief political correspondent and national affairs editor for The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and The Canberra Times.

    Democracy Sausage with Mark Kenny is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pocket Casts, Google Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. We’d love to hear your feedback on this series, so send in your questions, comments or suggestions for future episodes to democracysausage@anu.edu.au.

    This podcast is produced by The Australian National University.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    42 min