In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke all about learning. We discuss how learning needs to be deep and goes far beyond just remembering facts. We all need to grow wisdom, too.

We talk about the richness of neurodiversity rather than neuroformity. And we see the wonder and necessity of the invitation to all of us to go deeper and deeper in our learning for the sake of both ourselves and the world around us.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about the importance of waging peace and not war. For that to happen, we all need to see the vital importance of really listening to others. We simply have to listen and we recognise that, in truth, we only win when we all win, we can learn to not let anger get hold of and grip us, and as the brilliant Desmond Tutu said, if we want peace, we have to talk to our enemies, not just our friends.

In fact, we are invited to love our enemies.

This episode feels so important for right now, we hope that you will join us in waging peace.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke all about the wonder of ambiguity, starting from observing a Spanish Town Square in a power cut, all the way to how we can develop the ability to find our way in the dark when we aren't feeling sure at all.

So much of life is navigated in ambiguity. So together, we chat about how we can grow to not despise it, but welcome it and see it all as a creative invitation.

We realize once more, the anchor of vision and see the truth that we don't need to know everything to take the next step.

We just need to know enough and we also need enough foolishness to believe that we can do what needs to be done.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this second part of 'Beyond the Barricades', Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about standing with courage in the face of fear as we speak and stand up for justice, compassion, and inclusion.

Together, we explore how power can be so enticing for all of us. And we remind ourselves that we must speak out even when our voice is shaken, shaking, and even when we think we might lose it all.

Responding to the invitation to embrace fear as we seek to live love out loud. In the end, we see that courage is a muscle we can always strengthen. Acting justly, loving mercy and walking humbly.

This is the path we are invited to take, and this is how we will all find our voice.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk about not waiting for the cavalry, but instead realising we are the ones we've been waiting for.

We explore how change comes from a dedicated small band of people who stand up and work for a world they can see beyond the barricades. We think through why we believe everyone else is responsible rather than us, which is actually a huge deception.

And we recognise that we all have agency and there always exists the invitation to participate in creating change. We hope this episode gives you the courage to shift, move and pivot so that we can all, all move beyond the barricades together.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk all about distress, eustress and de-stress. This episode is all about pressure. We discuss how it shows up in our bodies, its physiological impact.

We think about what we can do when it feels like it is all becoming too much. We even talk about tears. We reflect on the story and power of wilderness and how the pressure of a wilderness can be an invitation that can mould and shape us into the very kind of people we long to be more compassionate, more present, more humble.

We pray that this episode helps you as you navigate pressure and the crucible that life can be.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk all about blame. We can all jump to blame so easily, and we find it hard to take responsibility when we've done something wrong and say sorry.

Blame is a shortcut. In this episode, we pay attention to the power of self reflection, self awareness, self compassion, and the decision of forgiveness. This was a super honest and, we hope, helpful conversation.

There's plenty of joy in this one too.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke about our response to the TV series 'Adolescence'. We discuss how all young people spell love T-I-M-E.

It's the most precious commodity we can ever give to a child. Along with our presence, we see that understanding what is happening physiologically in a young person helps us to know more full fully what and how we need to be in their orbit.

And we see that being involved and engaged with them through our time and our presence builds a protective layer. It's not a magic formula, but it gives a much stronger foundation. From simple ideas to important insights.

This conversation was so rich. We pray it helps you as you navigate all the wonder and complexity of life together.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.