Is it REALLY possible that the dead are not dead, but simply in another state of being? Given his life with Anne, continuing now for 10 years after her death, and then last week’s stunner of a show with a guest who seems to have returned from the afterlife, Whitley has been on a quest to find a new approach to the whole issue. This show, with Oxford educated researcher Chris Carter, is part of that quest.

Mac Tonnies, who died in 2010 at the age of 35, was a genius. Simple as that. His 2010 book The Cryptoterrestrials (published shortly after his untimely death) reads, as Whitley and Mac’s friend Greg Bishop say in this show, like a book that should have been published in 2025. And maybe that’s what Mac wanted when an astonishing event happened at the 2025 Contact in the Desert gathering. In the show, Whitley explains the event, and for our video viewers, shows the ultra-high strangeness origin of the haunting image of Mac you can see above. Then Whitley and Greg respect what we believe to be a direct request from Mac, and provide an in-depth discussion of The Cryptoterrestrials.

In this edition of Dreamland, Whitley covers subjects such as the Jeffrey Epstein case, the danger of making AI your guru, and just why the emergence of non-human entities into our daily lives is going to be so hard to handle–not, perhaps for people who follow this subject, but what about the billions who know nothing about the UAP phenomenon, let alone have ever even entertained the idea that aliens may one day walk among us.