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Ep. 19 Ode to College

Ep. 19 Ode to College

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What We Talk About:
  • First-generation college stories — how two very different paths shaped your adulthood.
  • How expectations, finances, imposter syndrome, and identity play into the college journey.
  • Why finding your people matters more than the school itself — and how community becomes belonging.
  • Raising college students while still becoming adults yourselves — and how your sons’ college + military paths mirror and diverge from your own.
  • What higher education is getting wrong, what it must do to survive, and why connection still matters more than policy.
Quote of the Episode:

“There are so many paths. And nobody gets to tell you which one is right except for you.”

Conversation Starters:
  • What parts of your own coming-of-age shaped who you are now?
  • When did college first feel like yours — or when did it not?
  • How do you talk to young adults about pathways: straight lines, zigzags, detours, or restarts?
  • What role do people — not places — play in creating belonging?
Resources & Mentions:
  • ASU’s charter: “We define ourselves by who we include and how they succeed.”
  • Conversations on cultural identity, intersectionality, and inclusive teaching from Denise’s TEL 212 course.
  • Reflections on the Gulf War and how early adulthood moments spark service, purpose, and identity.
  • The evolving landscape of higher education — enrollment cliffs, NIL, mental health, and the future of the college experience.
Connect & Reflect:

Share your own college story:
What surprised you? What shaped you? What still lingers from that version of you today?

Tag us @theroughdraft or visit deniseleighwaters.com/ourroughdraft to join the conversation.

Mini Moment:

Denise tells the story of discovering — a decade later — that she hadn’t actually graduated due to a missing credit…and how a VHS-based child development class finally closed the loop. Sometimes the rough drafts of our lives really do come full circle.

Try This:

This week, ask someone you love (a partner, a teenager, a friend) about their college expectations vs. their reality.
What did they imagine? What surprised them?
Let it open a conversation about identity, belonging, and the many paths into adulthood.

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