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🎙️Ep. 23 - “Travel Is Fatal to Prejudice — But America Keeps Rebooking the Trip”

November 10, 2025 • 1 hour, 36 minutes

The hosts unpack how global travel broadens empathy even as America clings to the same old routes of racism, denial, and selective memory.

Mark Twain wrote that “travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness.” This week, our hosts update that line: travel is fatal to prejudice in people. And as this conversation unfolds, they remind us that translation itself—of words, of cultures, of identities—is always an act of interpretation.

Because this episode isn’t just about passports and plane tickets. It’s about the journey of perspective—how seeing the world reshapes what we think we know about race, belonging, faith, and power.

And yes, there’s news. The guys unpack the fallout from the assassination of Charlie Kirk. They look at the way certain segments of America are already mythologizing him as a martyr of “free speech.” The conversation gets uncomfortable, especially when Jon revisits his own past as a young preacher intoxicated by certainty and applause—and recognizes, with some humility, how dangerous that confidence can become when supercharged with funding, politics, and grievance.

They identify white supremacy not as robes and rallies, but as a lens—one that distorts what we see and who we value. And they ask: if America can pay settlements to families wrongfully detained or deported, why can’t it pay reparations to those it enslaved and systematically excluded?

From Morocco’s marketplace warmth to India’s fearless flow of life, from Haiti’s echoes of home to the small cultural rituals that make family sacred—this episode asks what it really means to travel well.

• What happens when you realize your culture’s “order” is someone else’s “chaos”?
• When you feel less Black or white abroad and more American—and not always proudly so?
• When you see that happiness doesn’t depend on hustle, and that “community” might just be the most radical form of wealth?

Listener Takeaways & Questions:

•Can travel be a form of reparative justice—a way to unlearn the hierarchies we were raised inside?

•How does American consumer culture—our holidays, our spending, our advertising—mask deeper absences of meaning and belonging?

•And what would it take for our country to admit, out loud, that repair isn’t just legal—it’s moral?

Action Items:

1.Listen with curiosity, not judgment.

2.Reflect on where your perspective was born—and when it last changed.

3.Share the episode with someone who travels differently than you do.

4.Engage: Drop your thoughts on Instagram, Facebook, or TikTok @ThreeForTheFounders, or text them directly through Buzzsprout.

This is a conversation about proximity—the kind that dissolves prejudice, reshapes identity, and maybe, just maybe, brings us a little closer to justice.

So buckle up. Episode 23 of Three for the Founders starts now.

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