Tom Gardner, The Economist’s Africa correspondent based in Nairobi and the author of The Abiy Project: God, Power and War in the New Ethiopia. Gardner unpacks the story behind his book, offering deep insight into the rise of Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed and the complex forces of religion, power, nationalism, and conflict shaping modern Ethiopia. Drawing on years of on-the-ground reporting, he explores how hope, ideology, and war collided in one of Africa’s most influential states.

Following the interview, Robert is joined by Ruairi for a candid reflection on the conversation—discussing what stood out, what challenged their assumptions, and why Ethiopia’s story matters far beyond its borders.

A thoughtful episode on leadership, belief, and the realities of power in contemporary Africa.

Show Notes:The Abiy Project: God, Power, and War in the New Ethiopia

https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2025/11/13/ethiopia-is-perilously-close-to-another-war

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