What if I told you that the most brutally honest performance metric you'll ever face isn't on your smartphone, can't be faked by AI, and strips away every excuse you've ever made about what you're truly capable of? It’s called running.

Nicholas Thompson is the CEO of The Atlantic, an American magazine founded in 1857, which earned the top honor for magazines, General Excellence, at the National Magazine Awards in both 2022 and 2023.

In his time as CEO, the company has seen record subscriber growth. Before joining The Atlantic, he was the editor-in-chief of Wired magazine.

He is also a former contributor for CBS News and has previously served as editor. He has long been a competitive runner; in 2021, he set the American record for men 45+ in the 50K race.

Jon chats with Nick about:

• running's purity reveals personal truth and growth

• multitasking training with commuting and daily life

• breaking psychological barriers through gradual exposure

• how AI threatens media authenticity

• setting challenging goals creates transferable resilience

Stay connected:

Follow Nick:

http://linkedin.com/in/nicholasxthompson/

https://x.com/nxthompson

https://www.instagram.com/nxthompson/?hl=en

Nick’s book, “The Running Ground” on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Running-Ground-Father-Simplest-Sports/dp/0593244125

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Whether you just won the NCAA title or you just sucked in that race… the sun comes up tomorrow, and we're going back to work in the morning.

Emma Coburn is a middle-distance runner who specializes in the 3000-meters steeplechase. She’s a world champion, world silver medalist, Olympic bronze medalist, three-time Olympian and 10-time US National Champion in the steeplechase.

Her approach to training and competition emphasizes consistency, discipline, and focusing on process over outcomes. She believes that "belief comes from working hard" and executing training day-to-day rather than relying on hope alone. Her philosophy is grounded in the idea that "you can't just hope your way to the Olympics" but must work consistently despite setbacks.

Jon chats with Emma about:

• resilience through discipline and routine

• food culture and fueling without restriction

• mental strategies for race performance

• building sustainable habits for long-term success

• moving forward after setbacks and losses

Stay connected:

Follow Emma:

https://www.instagram.com/emmacoburn/

Emma’s Website:

https://emmacoburn.com/

This episode is supported by:

AmazFit Check out the T-Rex 3 and a selection of GPS watches at http://bit.ly/4ojbflT and use code “FTLR” for 10% off.

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Success in running often comes from hitting rock bottom. This was the case for Terence Gerchberg, who transformed his gambling addiction into a mission to help others find their footing, one mile at a time.

In the words of Terence, “Running changed and saved my life. Today, I have the privilege of helping others do the same through Back on My Feet, a national nonprofit that transforms the lives of those experiencing homelessness and addiction through the power of running and community.”

Jon chats with Terence about:

• overcoming gambling addiction through running

• Back on My Feet nonprofit mission

• ultra running and Leadville race attempts

• community support in running groups

• finding purpose through helping others

• his definition of success (not money)

Stay connected:

Follow Terence:

https://www.instagram.com/coachamazing/

Back on My Feet:

Backonmyfeet.org

This episode is supported by:

Rocket Money Take control of your spending. Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reduce the rest with Rocket Money: RocketMoney.com/GORUN.

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