Lindsey Burke returns to Freedom to Learn to discuss the Trump administration’s plans to “return education to the states.” Lindsey, who serves as Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy and Programs at the U.S. Department of Education (ED), discusses the Department’s origin story, what it does and does not do, and the pernicious impact of top-down federal influence. She details the administration’s plans to streamline federal bureaucracy, including recently announced inter-agency agreements that shift programs and staff from ED to four federal agencies, and addresses concerns about the impact on students with disabilities.

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Neal McCluskey and James Shuls join the podcast to discuss their new book, which has a fantastic title: Fighting for the Freedom to Learn: Examining America’s Centuries-Old School Choice Movement. We discuss the true origins of educational freedom, tackle the pernicious myths around school choice and segregation, and touch on the pivotal figures and organizations that have shaped education systems and options in America. From the early days of diverse schooling options (ever heard of dame schools??) to the modern push for educational pluralism, this episode challenges conventional narratives and celebrates the fight for the freedom to learn.

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This week on Freedom to Learn, we’re re-releasing a fan favorite: U.S. Senator Ted Cruz. He takes us behind the scenes of how the Federal Scholarship Tax Credit became law—and why he’s fought for school choice for decades. We are grateful this Thanksgiving for all our school choice champions and allies!

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Lauren May, Director of Advocacy at Step Up for Students – the nation’s largest scholarship-granting organization (SGO) – joins the podcast this week to dispel education freedom myths, explain how Florida became a national leader in educational choice, and discuss what to expect from the new Federal Scholarship Tax Credit. Lauren shares her journey from educator to advocate and describes the evolution of Florida’s school choice landscape, from small scholarship programs launched 25 years ago to universal education savings accounts (ESAs) and other programs serving more than 500,000 students today.

Florida Scholarship Data

Why Catholic Schools Are Growing in Florida: Five Things to Know

Florida’s à la carte learning boom: A special report

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Will AI revolutionize education or steal students’ opportunity and ability to learn? Andy Smarick, Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, worries that AI is a threat to learning, and we’re just letting students outsource their education to AI tools rather than develop essential skills and knowledge. We discuss the education world’s long history of embracing the latest fad, whether it’s whole language instruction, open classrooms, ubiquitous screens, and now AI, and we dig into Andy’s call for a two-year moratorium on AI in both K-12 and higher education.

It’s Time for a Moratorium on AI in Schools

The 4 Crises of American Education: Serious people need to take this seriously

White House Summit on Inner-City Children and Faith-Based Schools

Preserving a Critical National Asset: America’s Disadvantaged Students and the Crisis in Faith-based Urban Schools

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Erika Sanzi joins the podcast to discuss the urgent need for states and school districts to undertake “legal housekeeping” and stop violating federal laws. She shares examples of school board policies that hide information from parents, discriminate based on race and sex, and prove that indoctrination in schools is pervasive, and not just limited to certain areas. Erika shares her journey as a teacher, school board member, and parent, and her role in the parental rights movement. Erika is Senior Director of Communications at Defending Education.

Defending Education's IndoctriNation Map: https://defendinged.org/map/

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Jorge Elorza, former mayor of Providence, RI, and current leader of Democrats for Education Reform (DFER), is dislodging the “sticky” forces of the K–12 status quo, including the powerful teachers unions. He joins the podcast to discuss the policies and politics of DFER’s education abundance agenda. Jorge also explains how the new Federal Scholarship Tax Credit can empower families and why all governors should opt in so students in their states can benefit.

DFER’s National Federal Scholarship Tax Credit (ECCA) Polling

A Democratic Framework for An Abundance Education Agenda

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“Americans of all parties and backgrounds overwhelmingly support school choice – and will vote accordingly.” Brian Jodice, National Press Secretary for the American Federation for Children (AFC), joins the podcast to share the polling that backs up his organization’s proclamation. We discuss the growing support for school choice across the United States and the importance of state participation in the newly introduced Federal Scholarship Tax Credit. Brian also addresses common myths surrounding education freedom and shares personal stories from North Carolina's school choice journey.

National School Choice Survey: September 2025

AFC Fellows

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