As we enter our final days of writing songs for our next album, Vanessa gets real vulnerable and plays a bunch of random song ideas recorded on her phone. Let us know what you think! And please sign the attached NDA.

This episode was recorded live from a car on the highway. As a result, it's the first ep to break our "no editing" rule, but honestly it sounded like garbage and was unusable if we hadn't cleaned up the audio.

When we finally got around to treating it we had released another episode, so this is also out of chronological order. But it was a fun discussion about the joys and perils of creativity and publishing personal works.

In this episode we also argue about:

• why we made a podcast
• why we make & release music
• why "creativity loves speed"
• the roadblocks that slow creativity down
• the fights we get into as a result

David and Vanessa argue about:

• Overcoming writer’s block
• How each of their writing styles have evolved over the years
• Which of us is Charli XCX and which is Lorde
• Are toplining or rhyme dictionaries cheating?
• How songwriting is like an escape room

On a very special episode of this brand new podcast nobody knows about, David and Vanessa argue about:

• ​what TV show to watch next
• ​if we picked the right name for this podcast
• ​whether or not Kevin Costner drank his own pee on the set of Waterworld

Wow! Another podcast! Just what the world needs.

We’re David and Vanessa. We’re in a band called Goodnight Sunrise. We also make a math education podcast called Math Therapy. So we decided, since there aren't enough podcasts out there, to make a new podcast where we talk about whatever we want and do literally zero editing.

So here is our first episode, unfiltered for better or for worse. We spent our precious time coming up with bad names for this show until we landed on one we liked at the end. But then after recording, we thought of a different and maybe better one, so we might change it, who knows.

Listen to our band: Goodnight Sunrise

Listen to our math podcast: Math Therapy