What happens when a Traditionalist leader and a Gen Z professional sit down to compare their views on purpose, motivation, and values at work? In this episode, Dr. Katherine Jeffery brings together David Zerfoss and Isabelle Patterson for an open, insightful conversation that uncovers what divides and connects their generations—and reveals how curiosity and respect can bridge the generational gap shaping today’s evolving workplace.

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• Hosts Dr. Katherine Jeffery
• Guests: David Zerfoss and Isabelle Patterson
• Episode Manager: Jody Fernando
• Editor: Ariana Layton

In this episode of GenShift, Dr. Katherine Jeffery dives into the unique world of Zillennials—those caught between Millennials and Gen Z. Guests Rachel Bagda and Marissa Gratz share what it’s like to live in that in-between space, exploring how growing up before smartphones yet coming of age with social media shapes their identity, work, and relationships.

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• Hosts Dr. Katherine Jeffery
• Guests: Rachel Bugda and Marissa Gratz
• Episode Manager: Jody Fernando
• Editor: Ariana Layton

In this episode of GenShift, Dr. Katherine Jeffery sits down with 23-year-old project manager Jake Eudy, who chose the skilled trades over the traditional college path. He shares how mentorship, grit, and a hunger for authenticity are shaping not only his career but also Gen Z’s redefinition of success in the trades.

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• Hosts Dr. Katherine Jeffery
• Guests: Jake Eudy
• Episode Manager: Jody Fernando
• Editor: Ariana Layton