Is the church a corporation? Should Pastors be paid for preaching and teaching? Is tithing a requirement for believers today? Join us as we discuss these questions as we respond to Ruslan KD's debate with Nathan Apffel.If you like this video, then please give it a like and subscribe to our channel for more content like this.Go to our website to find out more about our ministry and how you can get involved: https://divinecreative.org

Does your walk with Christ feel stuck, routine, or even pointless? You're not alone. Many Christians feel like they've hit a wall, and the typical Sunday service isn't providing the deep transformation they crave. In this discussion, we break down why so many churches are missing the mark.We explore the concept of "Telos"—the ultimate aim or purpose—and how the modern church has often traded the biblical goal for something much lower, like evangelism numbers or entertainment. We analyze why the "attractional church" model often leads to burnout and spiritual immaturity, leaving believers stuck in the early stages of their faith. Using Ephesians 4 and the stages of spiritual development popularized by John Mark Comer, we reveal the true purpose of the church: equipping believers to attain the full stature of Christ. This is the key to getting unstuck and building a faith that lasts for eternity.

Are spiritual gifts like prophecy, healing, and tongues still active in the church today? This question has created one of the deepest divides in Christianity, pitting cessationists against charismatics. In this deep-dive discussion, we seek to demystify the doctrine of spiritual gifts and find a charitable middle ground.We break down the biblical language (charisma, ruach, pneuma) to build a foundational understanding of what a "gift" truly is. Join us as we explore the three primary lists of spiritual gifts found in scripture and what they mean for believers today:The "Operations" or personality gifts in Romans 12The "Ministry" gifts or church roles in Ephesians 4The "Supernatural" gifts in 1 Corinthians 12By analyzing the arguments from theologians like RC Sproul and examining the extremes of both sides, we propose a path forward—one that avoids the desire to control God and instead embraces a walk of faith, love, and unity.// CONNECT WITH US //► Website: https://divinecreative.org► Email: hello@divinecreative.orgDon't forget to like, subscribe, and hit the notification bell for more content!Video Chapters00:00 Intro: The Christian Divide on Spiritual Gifts01:20 What is a "Spiritual Gift"? Defining Charisma03:34 Gifts Beyond Miracles: Personality & Disposition07:12 What Does "Spirit" Mean Biblically? (Ruach & Pneuma)12:47 Your Spirit as Your Animating Force16:15 3 Tiers of Gifts from the Trinity (1 Cor 12)22:03 Gift List 1: The "Operations" (Romans 12)27:57 Explaining the Romans 12 Gifts (Prophecy, Service, Mercy, etc.)48:57 Gift List 2: The "Ministries" (Ephesians 4)52:15 Why "Pastor-Teacher" Is One Role57:04 The Roles of Evangelist, Prophet, and Apostle1:18:13 Gift List 3: The Supernatural Gifts (1 Cor 12)1:22:24 Were Miracles Constant for the Apostles?1:26:10 The Opposite of Faith Isn't Doubt, It's Control1:49:46 A Fair Look at Cessationism (RC Sproul)1:59:20 Challenging the Cessationist Viewpoint2:09:00 God's Motive: Is It Just Revelation, or is it Love?2:17:04 The Middle Ground: Walking With God Without Control2:27:21 The Single Most Important Purpose of Every Gift2:40:20 Q&A and Closing Prayer