On this episode of Staying Alive, hosts Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally sit down with their youngest-looking friend of the same age, the hilarious Ben Rodgers (Star Trek: Lower Decks, Workaholics, Ten Year Old Tom) to talk about lifting weights, partying at Drew Carey’s house, quitting drinking, therapists, found family, and novelty rugby t-shirts. Plus, Ben wants to know why our greatest scientific minds seem to mainly be working on gummy technology, and Pally met George W.

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This episode was recorded October 10, 2025 at SiriusXM studios in Los Angeles

Special thanks to Jared O’Connell and Brendan Byrnes

Staying Alive is produced by Devon Torrey Bryant and Anne Harris

Engineered and edited by Devon Torrey Bryant, who also wrote the music

Associate producer and video editor is Maddie McCann

Executive produced by Jon Gabrus, Adam Pally, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Bernie Kaminski, and Rich Korson

Keywords for this episode: Mix Master Mike, run clubs, Drew Carey, The Sphere, The Eagles, Gronk, Grok, Jamaican Frasier, boxing, rugby, Dungeons & Dragons, sobriety, gummies, trainers, cross fit, Ryan Stanger, Dr Steven Pally, Anthony Atamanuik, George W Bush, Kimmel, gyms, therapy, Doctor Melfi, boundaries

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