In this week’s episode of MidAtlantic, host Roifield Brown asks whether Donald Trump’s corrosive rhetoric is a momentary blip or a seismic shift in the way American presidents speak and more importantly, lead. Is the bar for political discourse permanently lowered, or are we just watching a uniquely toxic figure dominate a uniquely toxic moment?

The transatlantic panel includes Steve Krone in LA, Denise Hamilton in Houston, Mike Donahue in the U.S., and Mike Holden in Preston, UK. Together, they grapple with whether Trump’s verbal scorched-earth tactics are just personal style or indicative of something more lasting. Krone argues the bigger threat isn’t Trump’s words but his authoritarian ambitions. Hamilton disagrees, insisting rhetoric and policy now move hand in hand, eroding trust in institutions and in each other. Donahue adds that Trump’s cult-like grip on the Republican base makes critique feel futile. “There is no bottom,” he says.

From the UK, Holden observes the creeping Trumpian tone in Reform UK’s politics. One Reform candidate telling David Lammy MP to “go back where he came from” may be Britain’s own grotesque baby step in that direction. But Boris Johnson, for all his rule-breaking, used elevated language. Trumpism in tweed, you might say.

So what’s the right response? Fight fire with fire or take the high road? The panel is split. Gavin Newsom’s choice to hit back with the same kind of crassness raises the question: is this tactical jiu-jitsu or just more degradation of political standards?

The conversation closes with a tribute to Rob Reiner, whose films offered a more decent and coherent version of the American story. The contrast is stark and perhaps intentional.

1. Steve Krone: “Trump is vile, yes, but has he changed the baseline of political discourse? I don't think so.”
2. Denise Hamilton: “Rhetoric plus policy equals destruction. That’s the true Trump legacy.”
3. Mike Donahue: “There is no bottom. We’ve just given up caring. If you haven’t figured out who Trump is by now, there’s no hope.”
4. Mike Holden: “Some UK politicians are trying out Trumpism but in lowercase.”
5. Denise Hamilton: “How do you fight a sociopath? Michelle Obama said go high. My mother said gouge their eyes out.”

Rob Reiner's Work and Tributes

• Rob Reiner's IMDb Filmography
• This Is Spinal Tap (1984)

Politics and Rhetoric

• People for the American Way (Founded by Norman Lear)
• Harry Enten’s CNN Polling on Trump
• Trump’s Approval Ratings – FiveThirtyEight

Gavin Newsom Online

• Gavin Newsom on X (Twitter)

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