In this episode, Jess is joined by their friend, chosen family and comrade Jo Becker. Jo and Jess met at a Civil Resistance training course a few years back and have been in each others lives since. Jo (they/she) is currently doing their PhD in the field of autonomous spaces, prefigurative politics and degrowth. This is grounded in political organising bringing anti-hierarchical, abolitionist and climate justice perspectives/praxis together.

They can be reached as @treesnpeace on Instagram or @josephinebeckr on twitter - they use both platforms to chat politics, usually in form of anger and rage at what is happening in the world.

In this episode they cover so much ground - from imagining different economies and worlds, to the importance of true solidarity, to their different thoughts on how to call people into the work of social change and their shared passion and belief that things don’t have to be this way.

Sources mentioned in the episode:

• Bell Hooks - The Will to Change: Men, Masculinity, and Love
• Some orgs that run book clubs:
• Abolitionist Futures
• Everyday Racism Bookclub
• Netpol copwatch and anti-raids groups/training
• Jess Antiracism course - https://www.jessmally.com/events
• Find a Soup Kitchen in London

Healthy Humans Open Forum Sign Up Link

Follow and engage with Jo’s work:

Instagram

Twitter

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Jess Mally

Music and production by Finlay Mowat

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