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 This week, Robbie and Adam talk with Naman Goel about the origins and evolution of StyleX, how it integrates with React and other frameworks, and the pros and cons of different programming languages like Rust, TypeScript, and Swift. They dive into the challenges of building performant, type-safe styling systems, the surprising complexity of theme APIs, designing for developer experience, and more. In this episode: (00:00) - Intro(02:26) - Whiskey rating & review: Glenfiddich 12 Year Old single malt Scotch(09:13) - South Park, spy thrillers & sleeper hits you missed(11:20) - Flow vs TypeScript(14:59) - How CSS shaped Naman’s perspective on type systems(18:45) - How StyleX works—and why it’s different from Tailwind(21:02) - Tailwind Merge vs StyleX props: performance smackdown(22:16) - Real-world use case: when and why you’d want to merge styles(25:45) - Inside the making of StyleX and its powerful theming system(32:56) - Robbie and Adam wrangle Vue transitions in Astro(36:09) - GIF or JIF? SPA or “spa”?(40:36) - Building StarPod.dev: streaming audio across pages(42:30) - Can you reduce client-side router noise?(46:03) - Should you spec your idea or just blog it?(47:18) - Naman’s journey into writing web specs(48:44) - What is link delegation?(52:39) - Hot Take: Is Rust overrated?(01:02:17) - The dream language Naman wishes someone would build(01:04:57) - Are AI-generated programming languages just around the corner?(01:05:53) - A spicy take on CSS syntax and readability(01:06:27) - Is CSS finally catching up to StyleX?(01:07:43) - Plugs & where to follow Naman Links Glenfiddich 12 Year Old single malt Scotch: https://shop.us.glenfiddich.com/products/glenfiddich-12-year-oldSouth Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_ParkDungeons & Dragons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_&_DragonsAlien Earth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien:_EarthOzark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozark_(TV_series)Jason Bateman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_BatemanBlack Rabbit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_RabbitSlow Horses: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_HorsesSlow Horses: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_HorsesTypescript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/StyleX: https://stylexjs.com/React: https://react.dev/Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/SolidJS: https://www.solidjs.com/Svelte: https://svelte.dev/Vue: https://vuejs.org/Astro: https://astro.build/QuickJS: https://github.com/quickjs-ng/quickjsEmber: https://emberjs.com/Angular: https://angular.dev/Vanilla Extract: https://vanilla-extract.style/Chrome: https://www.google.com/chrome/PHP: https://www.php.net/Figma: https://www.figma.com/Theme UI: https://theme-ui.com/Stitches: https://stitches.dev/Starpod.dev: https://starpod.dev/Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/Livewire: https://laravel-livewire.com/Jason Miller - Application Holotypes: A Guide to Architecture Decisions: https://jasonformat.com/application-holotypes/morphdom: https://github.com/patrick-steele-idem/morphdomHTMX: https://htmx.org/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/CSS-Tricks: https://css-tricks.com/Swift: https://www.swift.org/Python: https://www.python.org/C++: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cppGo: https://go.dev/esbuild: https://esbuild.github.io/OCaml: https://ocaml.org/Prettier: https://prettier.io/Haskell: https://www.haskell.org/Elm: https://elm-lang.org/CoffeeScript: http://coffeescript.org/LightningScript: https://lightningscript.dev/Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/Chris Coyier: https://x.com/chriscoyierReact Summit: https://reactsummit.com/Solenoid: https://github.com/nmn/solenoid Connect with Naman Website: https://nmn.sh/X / Twitter: https://x.com/naman34Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/nmn.bsky.social Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rdAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.
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