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The Way Out Isn’t What You’ve Been Told

The Way Out Isn’t What You’ve Been Told

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You don’t really know what you’re made of until you’re flat on your back in a roach-infested apartment… or hooked up to chemo.

In this episode, we sit down with a creative entrepreneur who went from losing every client overnight and living with cockroaches, to building multi–seven-figure businesses—while walking through an aggressive form of blood cancer. This isn’t a highlight reel. It’s a real conversation about identity, calling, and what “freedom” actually means when comfort is stripped away.

We talk about the moment you draw a line in the sand and say, “I’m never going back.”
We unpack how discipline, faith, and brutal honesty with yourself can become weapons against chaos, fear, and distraction.

We also get into the tension you probably feel too:
– Being insanely good at your craft, but avoiding the hard things that actually move your life and business forward.
– Wanting to honor God with your work and money, but wrestling with control, tithing, and trust.
– Trying to “hear from God” in business decisions without over-spiritualizing everything.

📌 Key Topics:
✅ From cockroaches and zero income to consistent $70k–$100k months
✅ Why doing hard things first changes how every other decision feels
✅ How identity (“this is who we are, so this is what we do”) fuels consistency
✅ Quantity vs. quality in content and why creatives get stuck in perfectionism
✅ Blending faith and business: tithing, stewardship, and resisting the love of money
✅ Hearing God’s voice practically in our day-to-day decisions
✅ Redefining freedom after walking through chemo, suffering, and survival

Listen in, then ask yourself: What hard thing am I avoiding that my future freedom is quietly begging me to do today?



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