Show notes: https://jamesdnewcomb.com/jeannie
We welcome biblical scholar and author Dr. Jeannie Constantinou for a sweeping, heartfelt, and clarifying conversation on phronema—the ancient Christian mindset preserved in the Orthodox Church.
I open the conversation by sharing my own journey of transitioning into Orthodoxy, reflecting on how Western Christianity shaped my early worldview and how the discovery of the Orthodox Church revealed an entirely different way of understanding faith, thought, and spiritual life. As you'll hear, reframing an entire worldview and mindset does not happen overnight!
In this episode, you'll hear why Orthodoxy speaks so deeply to those seeking “something more” i.e. a fuller experience of Christ rather than a purely symbolic one. The discussion highlights the West’s long-standing reliance on human reason, logic, and systematic explanations, contrasted with the Orthodox emphasis on mystery, experience, sacrament, community, and the healing of the heart.
To put it another way: We can't possibly understand God in all His fullness, and we're perfectly okay with that!
Dr. Jeannie explains the ancient Greek concept of phronema. This goes beyond a mere “worldview.,” It is a mindset, disposition, and lived mentality that flows from the apostles and the early Church, unchanged for two millennia.
She also explains in detail how the Orthodox Church has maintained continuity with Christ’s original intent, what early Christian worship actually looked like, why tradition (and the dreaded ritual) matters, and how one begins to cultivate the mind of Christ through prayer, humility, sacramental life, and participation in the community.
Whether you’re new to Orthodoxy, curious about early Christianity, or simply wrestling with the limits of Western religious paradigms, this episode offers clarity, depth, and a pastoral invitation to encounter the reality of Christ via the fullness of His Church.
Episode highlights:
01:10 – James’s transition (not conversion) from Protestant/Western Christianity into Orthodoxy
07:10 – The unfulfilled Protestant mindset: salvation as a “destination” vs. lifelong journey
10:10 – Western fixation on explanation vs. Orthodox acceptance of mystery
13:10 – What phronema is—and isn’t
14:10 – How Christ Himself taught “the mind of God” through His deeds and teachings
17:10 – The West’s attempt to reconstruct early Christianity through reason
21:10 – The problem of individualism and denominational fragmentation
24:10 – The Church is the physical body of Christ, not some invisible abstraction
28:10 – The Eastern Church didn’t “break off” from Rome
30:10 – Bishops, councils, and why the early Church rejected papal monarchy
34:10 – The sincere desire to rediscover early Christianity
37:10 – How the apostles taught—and preserved—Christ’s actual teachings
41:10 – Early Christian worship: sacred, communal, experiential
46:10 – Oral tradition and why Scripture was never meant to stand alone
49:10 – Understanding the much-maligned Constantine’s role in Church history
51:10 – Why ritual is natural, ancient, and thoroughly Christian
53:10 – How to acquire phronema through lived participation within community
01:03:10 – How to connect with Dr. Jeannie and closing remarks
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