In this explosive episode of In Search of Excellence, Randall Kaplan sits down with Marc Lore—the billionaire entrepreneur, owner of the Minnesota Timberwolves, and the visionary founder behind Diapers.com (sold to Amazon for $545M) and Jet.com (sold to Walmart for $3.3B).

If you think entrepreneurship is glamorous, think again. Marc drops the filter to reveal that "95% of the day is shit work"—boring, repetitive, and unexciting tasks that most people quit on. From hauling thousands of diaper boxes out of Costco in an 18-wheeler because manufacturers wouldn't sell to him , to counting cards in Atlantic City casinos, Marc shares the raw stories of resourcefulness and resilience that defined his path to billions.

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Key Moments & Timestamps
00:00 – Intro: Why entrepreneurship is low probability and "shit work"
01:46 – The Story: Marc’s dad crashing Bruce Springsteen’s house
03:44 – How Marc’s dad "hacked" the job market for programmers
07:44 – Marc’s mom becoming a competitive bodybuilder at age 36
11:31 – The "Farmer Mindset": Creating something from nothing
13:32 – Nature vs. Nurture: Are entrepreneurs born or made?
14:44 – Overcoming bullies and the power of being alone
19:48 – Why "A-students" from top schools often struggle with failure
23:40 – Hiring Strategy: Why Marc is a "Resume Snob"
31:30 – Trading options and derivatives at 12 years old
35:32 – The Fake ID Ring: Deconstructing licenses to beat the system
40:12 – Why manual labor is the best training for CEOs
43:55 – The Diapers.com Hustle: Buying inventory from Costco with an 18-wheeler
45:48 – The "Loss Leader" Strategy: Losing money to win the customer
48:14 – The Human Calculator: Marc proves his insane math skills live
51:51 – Why visionary founders are obsessed with magic

About the Guest: Marc Lore
Marc Lore is a serial entrepreneur, investor, and owner of the NBA’s Minnesota Timberwolves. He is one of the few founders to sell a company to Amazon (Diapers.com) and another to Walmart (Jet.com) for multibillion-dollar exits. Known for his "human calculator" math skills and extreme risk tolerance, Marc is currently building the utopian city project Telosa and the food delivery startup Wonder.

About the Host: Randall Kaplan
Randall Kaplan is a serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist, and the founder of In Search of Excellence. He has been an advisor to more than 50 companies and invested in nearly 100, including Google, Lyft, and Seagate.

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In Part 2 of this incredible interview, Randy Kaplan sits down with world-renowned mentalist and America’s Got Talent finalist Oz Perlman. Oz reveals the psychological frameworks that allowed him to transition from a high-stakes career at Merrill Lynch to becoming the most sought-after mentalist in the world.

This episode dives deep into the "Business of Mind Reading." Oz shares his proprietary "Silo Method" for processing rejection, his "Shampoo Model" for never forgetting a name, and why a simple bag of Starbucks coffee can be the key to landing a million-dollar meeting. Whether you are an entrepreneur looking to network with CEOs or someone trying to master the art of public speaking, Oz Perlman’s insights on authenticity, extreme preparation, and the power of "giving" will transform your professional life.
Stick around until the end for a mind-bending demonstration where Oz reads Randy’s mind in real-time!

Timestamps
00:00 – The difference between Magic and Mentalism.
01:00 – Cold calling: The most important skill you can have.
05:00 – Tricking your brain to handle rejection (The Silo Method).
10:39 – Is college still necessary? Building a social brand.
15:00 – How to earn a mentorship and add true value.
17:41 – The Starbucks Coffee Trick: How to get any meeting.
21:30 – Quitting Wall Street: The James Gorman story.
30:00 – How to never forget a name (Listen, Repeat, Reply).
35:00 – Public speaking as a force multiplier for success.
40:00 – Learning from failure vs. extreme preparation.
44:14 – Rapid fire questions: Oz’s biggest regrets and goals.
47:15 – LIVE MENTALISM: Oz reads Randy Kaplan's mind.

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Oz Perlman is an Emmy-award-winning mentalist and one of the most famous performers in his field today. After rising to national fame as a finalist on America’s Got Talent in 2015, Oz has become a regular guest on major networks like CNBC, performing for elite CEOs and world leaders. He is a marathon runner, a math prodigy, and the author of the upcoming book “Read Your Mind”.
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Randy Kaplan is an entrepreneur, investor, and the co-founder of multiple multi-billion-dollar companies. As the host of *In Search of Excellence*, he interviews world-class performers to uncover the secrets to their success.

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Welcome to In Search of Excellence! In this episode, we are joined by Oz Perlman, the most sought-after and famous mentalist in the world. Known for his incredible run on America’s Got Talent in 2015, and working with many celebrities and athletes, including Tom Brady and man sports teams, Oz reveals the "super secrets" to success that go far beyond the stage. We dive into his journey from being a math prodigy who aced the SATs at age 12 to becoming a master of communication and human behavior.

Oz shares his philosophy on relentlessness, the importance of doing "shit work," and why offering to work for free is the ultimate "one-way call option" for your career. Whether you are an entrepreneur, a student, or someone looking to sharpen your communication skills, Oz’s insights on capturing attention and overcoming the fear of failure will provide a roadmap for your own excellence.

Timestamps
● 00:00 – The "Super Secret" to getting any job.
● 01:21 – Oz Perlman’s background and the meaning of "Oz".
● 04:12 – Growing up as an "engineering brat" and moving to the US.
● 06:10 – Developing communication skills through restaurant magic.
● 08:45 – Skipping 4th grade and winning the Spelling Bee.
● 10:30 – Getting a perfect 800 on the Math SAT at age 12.
● 15:05 – The seminal moment: A cruise ship magic show that changed everything.
● 19:22 – Learning from books vs. videos: Why "sweat equity" matters.
● 23:40 – AI, ChatGPT, and the future of human creativity.
● 30:15 – Cleaning bathrooms and the value of "shit work”.
● 36:12 – Managing time, blocking schedules, and delegating admin tasks.
● 40:10 – The Zia’s Restaurant story: How to sell yourself by offering zero risk.

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