Join host Arun Seraphin for a conversation on U.S.–China technology competition and industrial policy with Randy Shriver and Mike Kuiken of the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission. Drawing from the Commission’s 2025 report, this episode examines how China uses state-directed industrial policy to accelerate innovation across critical sectors such as aerospace, biotechnology, semiconductors, and quantum computing—and what that means for U.S. economic and national security.

Randy and Mike share insights from the Commission’s bipartisan work with Congress, highlighting recommendations to strengthen America’s competitive edge through public-private partnerships, increased investment in foundational research, and targeted initiatives such as a “Quantum First 2030” effort. The discussion also explores the challenges of scaling innovation in the United States, addressing workforce needs, and balancing openness with research security at American universities, offering a clear-eyed look at the policy choices shaping the future of emerging technology competition.

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