Strong, Black, and unapologetic about her beliefs. Being real isn’t a risk, it’s necessary.

In Episode 4 of The Ladders Podcast – “The Climb to Greatness,” Zeze Millz sits down with Greatness Dex to share her evolution as one of the UK’s most unapologetic and influential voices in media. From navigating the TV and podcast scene to challenging industry norms and breaking barriers for honest conversations, Zeze opens up about what it really takes to build your platform and stay true to yourself.

She also reflects on the lessons, controversies, and cultural moments that shaped her into the powerhouse she is today. This episode is bold, inspiring, and packed with the kind of honesty that defines true greatness.

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⏱️ Timestamps:

00:40 – Finding her voice and defining success

02:30 – Upbringing, confidence, and carving out space in media

08:41 – Navigating the industry as a Black woman in entertainment

11:00 – Dealing with criticism, social media, and mental resilience

16:00 – Iconic interviews and moments that shaped Zeze’s career

33:00 – The power of honesty and authenticity

38:00 – Breaking stereotypes and gatekeeping in the industry

40:00 – Advice for the next generation finding their voice

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