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Lasers in Skin

Auteur(s): Lisa McMahon & Mike Murphy
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 Lasers in Skin Podcast, hosted by "Laser Guru" Mike Murphy, and his daughter Lisa McMahon, dives into the science of lasers in aesthetics. Mike and Lisa delve into the fundamental physics all laser technicians must understand to get the best results, while squashing the myths, the "marketing baloney" and calling out poor training in the industry. Along with unmissable interviews and 'ask us anything' episodes, the Lasers in Skin Podcast is the ultimate podcast for laser geeks! Art Hygiene & Healthy Living Science
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  • An interview with Claire Louise-Hutchinson

    An interview with Claire Louise-Hutchinson
    Jun 11 2025
    Join Lisa and Mike as they interview the vibrant Claire Louise, a laser technician from Ilminster, Somerset. The trio dives into Claire's journey from a 23-year career in pharmaceuticals to becoming a successful laser practitioner, highlighting the challenges she faced with inadequate training and the pivotal moment that led her to seek guidance from Mike. Claire shares her experiences with laser hair removal and tattoo removal, emphasising the importance of authenticity in the beauty industry and the supportive community they've built together. KEY TAKEAWAYS Being genuine and authentic is crucial in building trust with clients. Emphasising the importance of being oneself can lead to stronger relationships and a more successful business. Initial training in the laser industry can often be inadequate, leading to a lack of confidence and poor results. Seeking out comprehensive training and support is essential for success. Open and honest communication with clients about mistakes and learning experiences can foster trust and loyalty. Clients appreciate transparency and are often understanding when informed about changes in treatment protocols. Building a supportive community among professionals in the laser industry can help combat feelings of isolation and provide encouragement. Sharing knowledge and experiences can lead to collective growth and improvement. Understanding the science behind treatments and adjusting protocols based on client feedback and research can significantly improve results. This includes extending treatment intervals and using appropriate techniques to enhance client comfort and effectiveness. BEST MOMENTS "You just have to be your genuine, authentic self. Don't try and be something you're not." "I thought I was going to blow someone's leg off, Mike. These are powerful machines." "Every single one of my clients was fantastic. I put together a PowerPoint to show them all the things that we talked about." "If you don't know how to use it, you'll never get the results. Simple as that." "You have to manage your client's expectations on the journey there." ABOUT THE HOSTS Mike began his career in medical lasers in 1986 with a physics degree and a post-grad in bioengineering. He helped develop the scar-free removal of tattoos using a Q-Switched Ruby Laser in Glasgow, and the world's first IPL system. Known well in the industry for his hard truths, no BS attitude and logical answers. As the author of three books, articles for medical journals, a well read blog, a Laser Protection Advisor and contributor to the BMLA, Mike is the Laser Guru. Lisa's claim to laser fame is being Mike's daughter. Growing up with lasers and never avoiding a physics lesson from her Dad, it was natural to enter the industry. Leaving a corporate career with a baby to jump into self employed life came with challenges. Despite that Lisa has been well recognised for her teaching style, practical tips, bringing the compassion to the science, and laser mentoring. Instagram: @dermalase_lasertraining https://mikemurphyblog.com https://www.dermalasetraining.com This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
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    39 min
  • Does UV Absorption Really Matter with Lasers/IPL

    Does UV Absorption Really Matter with Lasers/IPL
    Jun 4 2025
    In this episode, Lisa and Mike Murphy delve into the critical relationship between tanning, UV exposure, and laser treatments. With the recent sunny weather in the UK leading to increased UV exposure, they discuss the potential skin damage that can occur, including hyperpigmentation and irritation, particularly for those with lighter skin tones. Mike explains the science behind how ultraviolet photons can disrupt skin DNA and the body's natural response of producing melanin as a protective barrier. KEY TAKEAWAYS Increased UV exposure from sunlight or sunbeds can lead to skin damage, including hyperpigmentation and irritation, which complicates laser and IPL treatments. The skin produces melanin as a protective response to UV exposure, but this process takes time. During this period, the dermis remains vulnerable to damage from high-energy UV photons. Performing laser or IPL treatments on already damaged skin can exacerbate issues, leading to prolonged healing times and increased risk of adverse reactions. The Fitzpatrick scale, which categorises skin types based on UV response, is often misused. Skin tone should be assessed based on melanin concentration at the time of treatment rather than relying solely on Fitzpatrick classifications. It's crucial to have clear pre- and post-care consultations with clients, ensuring they disclose any recent UV exposure. Consent forms should be used to protect practitioners from liability and ensure client safety. BEST MOMENTS "A tanned skin is a damaged skin. What it's masking is damage underneath. That's why the tan is there." "If you have a low level concentration of melanin then yes, that first few days of exposure to the sun or sunbeds is the same." "If the skin is already damaged previously by exposure to ultraviolet light then you're inflicting damage on damaged skin and therefore you're just accumulating more damage." "Make sure that your pre and post care and consultation forms are airtight. Clients lie. They're not going to tell you the truth." ABOUT THE HOSTS Mike began his career in medical lasers in 1986 with a physics degree and a post-grad in bioengineering. He helped develop the scar-free removal of tattoos using a Q-Switched Ruby Laser in Glasgow, and the world's first IPL system. Known well in the industry for his hard truths, no BS attitude and logical answers. As the author of three books, articles for medical journals, a well read blog, a Laser Protection Advisor and contributor to the BMLA, Mike is the Laser Guru. Lisa's claim to laser fame is being Mike's daughter. Growing up with lasers and never avoiding a physics lesson from her Dad, it was natural to enter the industry. Leaving a corporate career with a baby to jump into self employed life came with challenges. Despite that Lisa has been well recognised for her teaching style, practical tips, bringing the compassion to the science, and laser mentoring. Instagram: @dermalase_lasertraining https://mikemurphyblog.com https://www.dermalasetraining.com This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
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    28 min
  • Surprise! Lisa is Pregnant, but What Does This Mean for Lasers

    Surprise! Lisa is Pregnant, but What Does This Mean for Lasers
    May 28 2025
    Sparked by Lisa's own announcement of her pregnancy, this episode explores the potential impact of using lasers when pregnant. As Lisa shares her experiences with increased sensitivity to laser treatments and the effects of pregnancy on her skin, her and Mike discuss the safety concerns surrounding laser use for both technicians and clients who are pregnant. KEY TAKEAWAYS Pregnancy can increase skin sensitivity, making treatments like laser procedures feel more intense and painful than before. There is a recommendation for laser technicians who are pregnant to proceed with caution, as the effects of laser treatments during pregnancy are not well-studied, and it’s better to err on the side of safety. Laser plume, the smoke produced during laser treatments, contains potentially harmful substances. Regular exposure can be equivalent to smoking multiple cigarettes a day, which poses additional risks for pregnant individuals. BEST MOMENTS "I just seem hung over all the time. I was like I'm so sorry I'm genuinely not coming to work hungover. There is a foetus inside me." "The problem is we don't know what the effects are. If we don't know, then do you really want to be the first person to say no?" "I keep forgetting, I just keep forgetting. But I said to this client of ours, the real thing I would be stopping is trying to have back-to-back treatments." "If you are doing laser hair removal, the plume is equivalent to smoking 20 cigarettes a day." "I think it depends on the person and what you want to do to yourself. Absolutely, that's up to you. That's your prerogative." ABOUT THE HOSTS Mike began his career in medical lasers in 1986 with a physics degree and a post-grad in bioengineering. He helped develop the scar-free removal of tattoos using a Q-Switched Ruby Laser in Glasgow, and the world's first IPL system. Known well in the industry for his hard truths, no BS attitude and logical answers. As the author of three books, articles for medical journals, a well read blog, a Laser Protection Advisor and contributor to the BMLA, Mike is the Laser Guru. Lisa's claim to laser fame is being Mike's daughter. Growing up with lasers and never avoiding a physics lesson from her Dad, it was natural to enter the industry. Leaving a corporate career with a baby to jump into self employed life came with challenges. Despite that Lisa has been well recognised for her teaching style, practical tips, bringing the compassion to the science, and laser mentoring. Instagram: @dermalase_lasertraining https://mikemurphyblog.com https://www.dermalasetraining.com This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
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    21 min

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