You’ve heard it before—get the right people on the bus and in the right seats. But how do you actually do that in today’s fast-paced workplace? In this episode, Dr. McKinley and Jonathon Gulley break down author Jim Collins’ iconic metaphor on how leaders find the right talent and place those people into roles where they can truly shine. Whether you’re building a startup team or leading a large organization, this conversation will inspire you to lead with clarity and courage.

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I believe leadership and the game of golf share many principles. Most may be obvious but one in particular has not been talked about enough. Some golf players don’t care much about the game itself so they casually engage with the sport. They are commonly referred to as “hackers.” This often leads to frustration for the other players, reflects poorly on the sport and its fans, and generally leaves a bad impression. Similarly, leaders who are careless, aloof, and disregard the accepted principles of leadership can leave a negative impression on the role of leadership. This podcast is committed to elevating the currency of leadership, so today Dr. McKinley addresses this topic head on by expressing that hacking at leadership is not good for the “sport.”

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Dr. McKinley continues his discussion with guest Hendre Coetzee who is a transformation coach and co-author of Shiftability. In part one of this interview the focus was on how to reframe rejection as a possible currency. In part 2, the discussion turns to some assumptions that are made about a leader’s expectations and how that impacts their ability to shift from irrational narratives about themselves, their roles, and the value they add to more healthier ones.

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