Hosts: Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund

Episode: 14

Runtime: Approximately 1 hour, 3 minutes

Release Date: September 23, 2025

Website: leadershipexploredpod.com

Episode Description:

In this episode of Leadership Explored, Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund shift the spotlight from the stars to the real game-changers: the glue people. These under-recognized teammates don’t always get the credit, but their steady, behind-the-scenes contributions are often the difference between chaos and cohesion.

Drawing insights from sports (hello, Wayne Gretzky’s assists!) and workplace psychology, this episode explores:

* Why 10x results are rarely about heroics—and more about enabling others

* How glue people stabilize teams, reduce friction, and quietly make others better

* What happens when organizations overlook or burn out their most collaborative contributors

* How to spot, support, and design for glue behavior in your teams

* The difference between glue people and glue work—and why that distinction matters

Whether you're a team leader, individual contributor, or organizational architect, this episode will help you recognize the assists that make real leadership and performance possible.

🔍 Episode Highlights:

⏳ [00:00] – Intro: From 10x myths to team assists—why this conversation matters

⏳ [01:24] – The quiet MVPs: Who are glue people, and what makes them essential?

⏳ [03:33] – Research-backed insights: NBA, NHL, and why assists win games

⏳ [07:58] – Star-heavy teams underperform—collaboration beats individual brilliance

⏳ [09:53] – Beyond heroics: Team players who make others better

⏳ [13:26] – Traits of glue people: Steady, emotionally grounded, and unselfishly competent

⏳ [17:03] – Glue ≠ Martyrdom—why healthy boundaries matter

⏳ [21:11] – Visibility bias, attribution errors, and why we miss the real contributors

⏳ [29:19] – The cost of ignoring glue people: burnout, sluggishness, and cultural erosion

⏳ [34:30] – What breaks when a glue person leaves (or takes PTO)

⏳ [37:28] – Personal stories: Ed’s burnout, Andy’s connector role

⏳ [42:51] – How to find the glue: behaviors, archetypes, and network patterns

⏳ [46:32] – How to value glue work: talk about it, measure it, protect it

⏳ [50:52] – Spot bonuses, recognition cards, and peer kudos: what works (and what doesn’t)

⏳ [54:09] – From firefighting to architecture: designing teams for shared glue

⏳ [58:06] – Balancing action, thought, and connection in team design

⏳ [1:00:56] – Final thoughts, takeaways, and your leadership challenge for the week

💡 Weekly Challenge:

* Name an Assist: In your next team meeting, call out a contribution that helped others succeed. Make the invisible visible.

* Be the Glue (Just a Little): Add one small system or note that improves clarity or flow for others.

* Spot the Unseen: Quietly ask your team who helped them the most this week—and look for the unsung names that emerge.

📣 Join the Conversation:

* Who’s the glue person on your team?

* Have you been in that role before?

* How can leaders better reward, recognize, and protect these contributors?

We want to hear your thoughts, stories, and takeaways. Email us at leadershipexplored@gmail.com or connect with us on LinkedIn.

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Hosts: Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund

Episode: 13

Runtime: Approximately 52 minutes

Release Date: September 9, 2025

Website: leadershipexploredpod.com

Episode Description:

In this episode of Leadership Explored, Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund tackle the loaded and often misunderstood concept of the “10x” contributor — the supposed rock star performer who delivers 10 times the results of an average teammate.

They dive into where the 10x myth came from, why it persists in tech and business culture, and the risks of idolizing individual brilliance over collective success.

This is a practical and thought-provoking conversation for any leader who’s tired of chasing unicorns and ready to build teams that actually work.

Ed and Andy discuss:

* Why “10x” is often more myth than metric.

* The difference between outputs, outcomes, and true value.

* How chasing individual greatness can undermine team performance.

* Why sustainable success comes from building high-functioning environments—not finding heroes.

* How leaders can shift their focus to system design, team chemistry, and compounding progress over time.

This episode will help you rethink how you define performance, evaluate talent, and create conditions where your teams thrive together—not just compete alone.

Episode Highlights:

⏳ [00:45] – What is “10x” and where did this idea even come from?

⏳ [02:02] – Ed shares a real-life job interview with a self-proclaimed “10x developer” — and why that was a red flag.

⏳ [04:56] – Is “10x” a buzzword now? How it evolved from productivity metric to cultural myth.

⏳ [08:42] – Unicorns, rockstars, and ninjas: How the language around 10x creates false expectations and elitism.

⏳ [10:03] – Why we chase 10x: ego, aspiration, and the illusion of shortcuts.

⏳ [12:50] – Team dynamics matter: careerists vs. jobbers and why every team needs a blend.

⏳ [16:36] – The 10x manager trap: Burnout, blind spots, and bad systems hiding behind high expectations.

⏳ [18:28] – What we really miss when we chase output instead of building performance ecosystems.

⏳ [21:28] – A LinkedIn parable: One quiet engineer’s impact > 100 loud meetings.

⏳ [24:30] – Outputs vs. outcomes: Why business impact always beats activity.

⏳ [30:21] – How the value of performance shifts throughout your career.

⏳ [38:48] – The “glue teammate”: Quiet, often invisible, but essential to success.

⏳ [43:36] – 1.1x vs. 10x: The case for compounding improvement and consistent growth.

⏳ [46:04] – Don’t cut butter with a chainsaw: Match your hires to the problem you need to solve.

⏳ [50:25] – A practical tool: The Team Competency Matrix and how to build smarter teams.

⏳ [51:43] – Final thoughts: Let go of the hero fantasy—build systems that make everyone better.

🎯 This episode is for you if:

* You’re hiring or leading a team and wrestling with performance expectations.

* You’re tired of buzzwords and want substance over hype.

* You’ve ever worked with (or as) a quiet performer who made everything better behind the scenes.

* You want to build sustainable teams where excellence is a culture, not a label.

💡 Challenge for Listeners:

Take a closer look at how your team defines success. Are you measuring speed and visibility—or outcomes and real impact? Ask yourself: Am I chasing a 10x person, or building a 10x team?

📬 Got feedback or a story to share?

Email us at leadershipexplored@gmail.com or connect with us on LinkedIn. We’d love to hear from you.

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Hosts: Ed Schaefer and Andy Siegmund

Episode: 12

Runtime: Approximately 38 minutes

Release Date: August 26, 2025

Website: leadershipexploredpod.com

Episode Description:

In this episode of Leadership Explored, Ed and Andy tackle a silent but persistent leadership trap—the belief that only certain types of work really count. Whether it’s documentation, planning, reporting, or mentoring, these “invisible” parts of the job are often ignored or undervalued.

But here’s the truth: It’s all the work.

Ed and Andy dig into why leaders must embrace the full scope of their roles—not just the glamorous or visible tasks—and how dismissing the less celebrated pieces of the puzzle leads to broken systems, burnout, and stalled careers. They explore mindset shifts, team dynamics, and the subtle ways leadership models either strengthen or erode trust.

From metaphors and practical tips to personal stories and reflection prompts, this episode is a must-listen for any leader who wants to build a high-trust, high-functioning team.

Episode Highlights:

⏳ [00:52] – Why “real work” often gets equated with visible output—and why that’s a dangerous myth.

⏳ [02:36] – The iceberg effect: How we glorify what’s visible and neglect what enables it.

⏳ [05:59] – When leaders skip the “boring” stuff, teams end up paying the price.

⏳ [07:54] – Short-term gains vs. long-term erosion: The delayed cost of neglecting planning and documentation.

⏳ [11:37] – Reporting as a leadership development tool—not just a checkbox.

⏳ [14:40] – Reframing planning, reflecting, and reporting as multipliers, not chores

⏳ [18:04] – Connecting unseen work to purpose, team success, and strategy.

⏳ [22:14] – The music metaphor: Practice, preparation, and performance in leadership.

⏳ [25:20] – Resistance as data: When tasks feel pointless, ask why.

⏳ [29:31] – The power of consistency and cohesion when leaders show up for all the work.]

⏳ [32:16] – Action steps for shifting mindset and honoring behind-the-scenes work.

⏳ [37:51] – Professionalism means doing the work—even when no one’s watching.

Try This:

* Pick one task you usually rush or resent. Slow down. Treat it as a craft.

* Recognize and celebrate someone else’s behind-the-scenes contribution.

* Ask yourself: “What work do I devalue that actually deserves more respect?”

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