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  • Elgar Weitmans - Experimenteren met AI is geen keuze meer voor advocatenkantoren
    Jan 8 2026

    AI verandert de advocatuur fundamenteel. Niet alleen technisch, maar ook cultureel.

    In deze aflevering van Legal AI Lab spreekt Hidde Bruinsma met Elgar Weitmans over wat het betekent om jurist te zijn in een tijdperk van generatieve AI.


    Elgar vertelt waarom hij zichzelf een generalist noemt. Waarom juist die brede blik steeds waardevoller wordt. En waarom advocatenkantoren die wachten op perfect beleid of volledige zekerheid zichzelf in de weg zitten.


    Het gesprek gaat over experimenteren. Over kleine teams. Over sandboxes in plaats van olietankers. En over waarom training, cultuur en menselijk gedrag uiteindelijk belangrijker zijn dan de technologie zelf.


    Ook bespreken we hoe advocatenkantoren omgaan met weerstand. Waarom vroege adoptie soms vooral geluk is. En waarom AI niet vraagt om minder mensen, maar om andere vaardigheden.


    Een aflevering voor studenten. Voor jonge juristen. Voor partners. En voor iedereen die voelt dat het klassieke carrièrepad schuurt.


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    hoofdstukken

    0:00 Introductie en het pad van Elgar

    1:10 Generalist zijn in de advocatuur

    2:59 Waarom AI een kans is voor generalisten

    4:14 Het klassieke carrièrepad onder druk

    6:08 Waarom experimenteren essentieel is

    9:20 De eerste kennismaking met ChatGPT

    11:28 Verandering organiseren binnen een groot kantoor

    13:52 Waarom timing soms geluk is

    15:15 Training is belangrijker dan technologie

    18:56 Worden advocatenkantoren techbedrijven

    21:53 Een nieuw profiel voor jonge juristen

    24:40 Zichtbaarheid. Kennis delen. Cultuur

    27:23 Waarom hyperpersoonlijk werkt

    30:48 De zoektocht naar juridische AI tools

    33:24 De trechter. Niet het resultaat maar het proces

    36:24 Waarom testen altijd contextafhankelijk is

    40:23 Van generieke AI naar juridisch onderzoek

    45:22 Richtlijnen en onzekerheid in de markt

    48:52 Open benchmarks en samenwerking

    51:44 Voorspellingen voor 2026

    54:31 Advies aan jonge juristen

    55:55 Afsluiting

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    58 min
  • Thibault Schrepel - Why banning AI in law schools will fail
    Dec 18 2025

    Banning AI at law schools will not save legal education. It will make it unfair.


    In this episode of Legal AI Lab, Hidde Bruinsma speaks with Thibault Schrepel, Associate Professor of Law at the Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam and founder of Stanford’s Computational Antitrust Project.


    Schrepel explains why banning AI creates distorted competition, why AI detection does not work, and why law schools must rethink how they teach and assess students instead of trying to preserve outdated systems.


    Based on a two year classroom experiment, he shows what happens when students use AI without guidance, with guidance, or not at all. The results challenge common fears about shortcuts and show why AI can strengthen learning when used deliberately.


    The conversation also dives into the limits of future proof regulation, the challenges of the EU AI Act, and how AI is already changing law firm business models, billing structures, and the role of junior lawyers.


    AI is not ending the legal profession. It is removing the most tedious work and increasing the value of human judgment, creativity, and strategy.

    It forces legal education to confront how lawyers actually create value.


    You’ll learn


    • Why banning AI in law schools creates inequality rather than fairness

    • What actually happens when students use AI in legal education

    • Why detecting AI generated work does not work at scale

    • How legal education must change exams and teaching methods

    • Why future proof regulation is impossible and adaptive law is necessary

    • How the EU AI Act struggles with fast technological change

    • Why hourly billing is under pressure


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    Chapters


    0:00 Introduction.

    3:05 Fear, prohibition and the illusion of control

    7:40 There is no hiding from AI in legal practice

    12:20 What really goes wrong when lawyers misuse AI

    17:30 AI does not replace reasoning. It exposes weak reasoning

    22:45 Judges, responsibility and meaningful human control

    28:30 Why AI literacy matters more than technical skill

    33:50 New legal markets beyond traditional law firms

    38:40 Why old billing models are under pressure

    43:10 The EU AI Act. Guardrails, risk categories and legal responsibility

    47:40 What the AI Act means for lawyers, judges and legal education

    50:10 Final reflection. Regulation as a condition for trust

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    51 min
  • Jos Smits - RechtspraakGPT, deepfakes en hoe AI de rechtspraak fundamenteel gaat veranderen
    Dec 10 2025

    AI verandert de rechtspraak sneller dan wie dan ook had verwacht.

    In deze aflevering spreekt Hidde Bruinsma met Jos Smits, Programmamanager AI bij de Rechtspraak, over deepfakes, bewijsproblemen, hallucinerende modellen en de ontwikkeling van RechtspraakGPT.


    Jos legt uit waarom klassieke ideeën over bewijs en waarheidsvinding niet langer houdbaar zijn in een tijdperk waarin beelden, stemmen en documenten volledig te vervalsen zijn. En waarom AI niet de rechter vervangt, maar wel de manier waarop rechters werken ingrijpend zal veranderen.


    Je hoort onder meer:

    • Hoe deepfakes het bewijsrecht fundamenteel uitdagen

    • Waarom AI soms de bewijslast juist omdraait

    • Wat RechtspraakGPT wel en niet zal kunnen

    • Hoe de rechtspraak verantwoord met LLMs wil werken

    • Waarom menselijke oordeelsvorming belangrijker wordt in een AI-wereld


    Deze aflevering is onmisbaar voor iedereen die nadenkt over de toekomst van recht, waarheidsvinding en technologie.


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    46 min
  • Pietro Ortolani - How Platforms Already Run the Biggest Courts on Earth
    Nov 20 2025

    Billions of decisions. Zero judges. And a justice system that lives inside your phone.


    Pietro Ortolani, Professor of Digital Law and Dispute Resolution at Radboud University, reveals why major platforms like Meta, Amazon and eBay already operate the largest dispute resolution systems on the planet. Much larger than any court we know. And far faster.


    In this wide ranging conversation, Pietro explains how platforms became de facto courts, why automation and AI already settle the vast majority of online disputes, and what the legal world can learn from this silent revolution. He shows how young lawyers can create new forms of online courts, why the hourly billing model is collapsing and why this moment is the best time in history to enter the legal profession.


    You will hear why justice at scale is possible, how the Digital Services Act is reshaping content moderation and why the next generation of lawyers should build the future instead of fearing it.


    What you will learn

    • How online platforms created the world’s largest dispute resolution systems

    • Why AI already handles the majority of disputes you never hear about

    • What judges and lawyers must understand about automated decision making

    • How the DSA creates a new market for out of court dispute resolution

    • Why law students should embrace creativity instead of fearing automation

    • How AI can act as a mirror for judicial bias

    • Why this is the best moment in history to become a lawyer


    Quote

    “It has never been a better or more interesting time to be a lawyer.”


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    Chapters

    0:00 Opening

    1:03 What platforms can teach us about dispute resolution

    3:14 How eBay accidentally built the first online court

    6:18 Why platforms settle billions of disputes without judges

    8:49 The limits of automated moderation

    11:09 Should we fear the Amazonification of justice

    13:27 The Oversight Board as a model for modern justice

    16:42 The rise of a new market for digital dispute resolution

    18:58 Can we copy these systems into public courts

    21:12 How AI empowers rather than replaces judges

    24:11 AI as a mirror for judicial bias

    26:32 The real danger of private control over public justice

    27:49 Do we already have a robot judge

    30:00 Why banning AI in courts makes no sense

    31:52 What young lawyers can build in this new legal world

    34:48 How the DSA transforms transparency and fairness

    38:22 Can we create global standards for algorithmic justice

    42:01 Why innovation meets resistance inside the legal sector

    45:11 What esports teach us about fast and fair dispute resolution

    48:46 Should law schools ban AI or embrace it

    51:31 Why this is the best moment to become a lawyer

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    57 min
  • Brando Benifei - Why Regulating AI Is the Only Way to Save It
    Nov 6 2025

    The world’s first AI law didn’t happen by accident. It was a political fight.


    Brando Benifei, Member of the European Parliament and lead negotiator of the EU AI Act, joins Legal AI Lab to reveal what really happened behind the scenes during the 36-hour negotiation that defined how artificial intelligence will be governed in Europe.


    He explains how Big Tech lobbying tried to weaken the rules, why trust and transparency are key to innovation, and how the so-called “Brussels effect” could make the EU’s AI law a global benchmark.


    Together with host Hidde Bruinsma, Benifei discusses how Europe’s human-first approach contrasts with the U.S. and China, and what this means for the future of AI, law, and democracy.



    You’ll learn


    • How the EU AI Act became the world’s first comprehensive AI law
    • Why trust and accountability are essential for innovation
    • What role Big Tech lobbying played in shaping the final text
    • How the Brussels effect exports EU rules to the rest of the world
    • What comes next for AI regulation and enforcement in Europe


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    Chapters


    0:00 Introduction – Who is Brando Benifei and why the AI Act matters

    1:45 How the idea of an AI law in Europe began

    3:20 The 36-hour negotiation that shaped the AI Act

    6:15 Inside the political pressure and Big Tech lobbying

    9:10 Balancing innovation with regulation

    11:40 Why trust and transparency drive progress

    14:05 The Brussels Effect – how EU laws shape the world

    16:25 What makes the AI Act different from U.S. and China approaches

    18:40 How AI regulation impacts startups and small companies

    21:00 Human rights, bias, and the ethical limits of AI

    23:30 Enforcement: how the AI Act will actually work in practice

    25:15 What comes after the AI Act

    27:00 Closing thoughts – AI, democracy, and the future of trust

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    41 min
  • Manuella van der Put - Moeten we de robotrechter straks vertrouwen? (Gerechtshof ’s-Hertogenbosch)
    Oct 30 2025

    Wat gebeurt er met de menselijke maat in de rechtspraak als AI steeds vaker dossiers analyseert, uitspraken schrijft en zelfs mee de raadkamer in gaat?


    Manuella van der Put, raadsheer bij het Gerechtshof ’s-Hertogenbosch en onderzoeker naar kunstmatige intelligentie in de rechtspraak, ziet grote kansen en fundamentele vragen. Ze praat over de grenzen van AI, de rol van emotie in rechtvaardigheid en het risico dat technologie beslissingen neemt die we zelf niet meer begrijpen.


    In dit gesprek van Legal AI Lab gaat het over de spanning tussen mens en machine in de rechtszaal. Kan een AI-systeem rechtvaardig zijn? Wat betekent empathie in een digitale rechtsgang? En hoe zorgen we ervoor dat AI ons helpt beter te oordelen, in plaats van het oordeel over te nemen?


    *Het systeem dat Manuella in dit interview noemde heet RechtspraakGPT en is ontwikkeld door de Raad voor de rechtspraak. Belangrijk: het systeem ondersteunt alleen bij tekstverwerking (samenvatten, vertalen, aanpassen van stijl), maar spreekt nadrukkelijk geen recht en geeft geen juridische oordelen. Het is zo ontworpen dat het dit type vragen weigert.


    In deze aflevering


    • Wat AI nu al doet binnen de rechtspraak – van samenvatten tot anoniem maken van uitspraken
    • Waarom de menselijke maat onmisbaar blijft in een geautomatiseerd rechtsstelsel
    • Hoe AI rechters kan helpen eigen vooroordelen te herkennen
    • Waarom AI geen empathie kan voelen en waar de grens van technologie ligt
    • Hoe AI de toegang tot het recht voor burgers kan vergroten


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    49 min
  • Minesh Tanna - Being scared of AI is like refusing to use computers in the 80s
    Oct 9 2025

    Law firms that don’t embrace AI will soon look like relics of the past.


    Minesh Tanna, Partner at Simmons & Simmons and Chair of the City of London Law Society AI Committee, warns that the legal profession is changing faster than lawyers are adapting.


    In this episode of Legal AI Lab, Tanna discusses how AI is reshaping law firms, replacing manual tasks, and redefining what it means to be a lawyer. He shares what keeps him up at night: if junior lawyers no longer do the groundwork that builds judgment and instinct, what will the senior lawyers of the future look like?


    Tanna also explains why firms that still fear AI are making the same mistake as those who once refused to use computers and why embracing AI responsibly is now the only way forward.


    You’ll learn:


    • Why the traditional training model for young lawyers is breaking
    • How AI is changing the skills and instincts lawyers need to succeed
    • Why law firms must build AI literacy across every level
    • How “the human edge” will define the lawyers who thrive in the AI era


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    Chapters


    0:00 Introduction and how AI is changing the legal world

    1:18 Why law firms are still slow to adapt

    3:04 The future of young lawyers and what keeps Minesh up at night

    5:27 If juniors don’t learn, who becomes tomorrow’s senior lawyer

    8:42 How AI will redefine the human edge in law

    10:15 Being scared of AI is like refusing to use computers in the 80s

    12:36 Building Percy, the AI system transforming Simmons & Simmons

    14:58 Law firms of the future with fewer lawyers and more technologists

    16:45 The business model of law is already shifting

    18:33 How lawyers can adapt and stay relevant in the age of AI

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    51 min
  • Richard Susskind - This Will Change Every Lawyer’s Career
    Sep 25 2025

    AI is not just changing the tools lawyers use, it is redefining the foundations of the legal profession.


    In this episode of Legal AI Lab, hosts Hidde Bruinsma and Martijn Doornbos speak with Professor Richard Susskind, the world’s leading voice on the future of law and technology.


    Together they explore how artificial intelligence is transforming legal education, reshaping law firms, and expanding access to justice.

    From short-term automation in law practice to long-term innovation that empowers non-lawyers, this conversation highlights the profound digital transformation underway in the legal system.


    You will learn:


    • Why banning AI in law schools risks leaving future lawyers unprepared for digital legal practice
    • How young lawyers can adapt when AI automates routine legal work in law firms
    • The difference between task automation and innovation in legal technology
    • How AI can empower citizens to solve disputes and prevent legal problems without traditional lawyers
    • Why we must prepare now for artificial general intelligence (AGI) and its impact on justice systems


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    Chapters

    00:02 AI in legal education

    12:45 Rethinking the lawyer’s role

    19:30 The challenge for young lawyers

    33:00 Empowering non-lawyers

    54:00 Preparing for AGI

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