Natalie Cochran seemed like she had it all: a good job as a pharmacist, a loving husband, and two kids. But then she quit her job to become a government contractor and started raking in dough, or so she claimed. Behind the scenes, Natalie was running a classic Ponzi scheme, scamming friends and family with fake contracts, fake government emails, and even fake cancer. But when the walls start closing in, lies alone won’t be enough to save her… These are the stories of the world’s most insidious Scamfluencers. And we are their prey. Every week on Scamfluencers, join co-hosts Scaachi Koul and Sarah Hagi as they unpack epic stories of deception from the worlds of social media, fashion, finance, health, and wellness. These influencers claim to be everything from charismatic healers to trusted financial insiders to experts in dating. They cast spells over millions. Why do we believe them, and how does our culture allow them to thrive? Listen now: Wondery.fm/SCAM

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J. Lo and Ben, Bennifer to some and the greatest love story ever told to Hunter and Peyton, are back. The couple reunited during J. Lo’s press tour for The Kiss of the Spider Woman, produced, of course, by her ex, ex-again, and maybe-future-ex. Some call it fate, others call it PR, but the prophecy stands: they were always bound to find their way back to each other, one red carpet at a time. Are we buying tickets? If box office sales can heal heartbreak, we’re already in line.

Meanwhile, Ben’s alleged cousin Jen (of Mormon Wives fame) is twirling through Dancing with the Stars alongside Dylan Efron, Alix Earle, and Whitney Leavitt. Hunter and Peyton give their scores, then dive into Rolling Stone’s list of the Best Songs of the 21st Century.

Lemme Say This will be on hiatus until further notice, but stay tuned for updates from @hunterh and @peytondix for what’s next.

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Comedian Jay Jurden is a reformed Barb, and he’s entered the Lemme Say This safe space to unpack the latest feud between Nicki Minaj and Cardi B. He didn’t come to play nice, but what even is nice? Sometimes, it’s cheering from the sidelines for a messy cheater. And the GOAT cheater? None other than Princess Diana.

As three New Yorkers, Hunter, Peyton, and Jay also weigh in on Eric Adams dropping out of the mayoral race and revisit some of his legendary one-liners.

Plus, Hunter and Peyton review Taylor Swift’s latest album The Life of a Showgirl, a glittery, chaotic release that has us all asking: is everything romantic? Lovers and haters alike will have something to say.

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