n this episode, Tom Rundel delves into the historical and theological significance of Pope Sergius I's refusal to conform to political pressures in the late seventh century, particularly regarding the phrase 'Lamb of God.' This pivotal moment in church history illustrates the tension between faith and power, as Sergius stood firm in his beliefs despite the threat of arrest. Rundel draws parallels between this historical event and contemporary issues within the church, emphasizing the importance of maintaining the integrity of faith in the face of societal pressures. He highlights how the phrase 'Lamb of God' serves as a radical declaration of God's nature, contrasting with imperial power and domination, and invites listeners to reflect on their own spiritual journeys and the deeper meanings behind their beliefs.

Throughout the conversation, Rundel encourages a re-examination of what it means to follow Jesus, emphasizing that true spirituality is not merely about beliefs but about living out those beliefs in a way that embodies love, vulnerability, and sacrifice. He challenges listeners to consider their desires and how they align with their spiritual lives, ultimately calling for a deeper allegiance to the values represented by the 'Lamb of God.'

Chapters

• 00:00 Introduction to Pope Sergius and Historical Context
• 02:58 The Significance of the 'Lamb of God'
• 05:27 Political Pressures and Faith Integrity
• 10:00 Contrasting Symbols: Eagle vs. Lamb
• 15:46 The Radical Nature of the 'Lamb of God'
• 20:27 Faith as a Witness and Spirituality
• 25:26 Desire and Spirituality: What Do You Want?
• 30:50 Vocation and Living Authentically
• 34:51 Closing Reflections and Benediction

Takeaways

• 'I'm a Christian.'
• 'God's power doesn't look like empire power.'
• 'What do you want?'
• 'Faith is a witness.'
• 'Desire is naturally human.'
• 'Tell me what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life?'
• 'The lamb symbolizes self-emptying love rather than imposed force.'
• 'We can't pretend otherwise, even if these people in power ask us to.'
• 'This is who Jesus is.'
• 'Come and see.'

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In this conversation, Tom Rundel reflects on his journey from city life to a deeper understanding of faith, exploring themes of baptism, identity, and the call to repentance. He shares personal anecdotes and historical insights, particularly focusing on the significance of baptism as a transformative act that reveals one's true identity as beloved by God. The discussion emphasizes the importance of solidarity with others and the need for a profound reorientation of values in the context of faith.

takeaways

• I did not grow up a country boy.
• I wanted to get out of the city.
• Fire is a symbol of baptism in the Bible.
• Worship what you have burned and burn what you have worshiped.
• Salvation and liberation are the same words.
• Baptism is an identity marker for us.
• We need a new epiphany for the new year.
• Repentance is a profound reorientation of values.
• We must stand in solidarity with those we help.
• You are God's beloved and he is well pleased.

Chapters

1. From City Life to Country Dreams
2. The Symbolism of Fire and Baptism
3. The Epiphany of Christ's Baptism
4. Solidarity and the Call to Repentance
5. Identity and Belovedness in Baptism

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This conversation explores the life and theology of Julian of Norwich, a 14th-century mystic who lived through the Black Death. Tom Rundel discusses how Julian's experiences shaped her radical theology, emphasizing God's love and presence in suffering. The conversation also delves into the nature of God, the distinction between the world and God's kingdom, and the importance of radical inclusion in the Christian faith. Finally, it advocates for a shift from Christian nationalism to localism, encouraging deeper community engagement and awareness of God's presence in everyday life.

takeaways

• Julian of Norwich lived through the Black Death, shaping her theology.
• Her visions emphasized God's love and presence in suffering.
• Julian's radical theology countered the belief in God's wrath during the plague.
• God's love is deeper than death, offering hope amidst suffering.
• The world is not separate from God's kingdom; we live in both.
• God's presence is often unrecognized due to societal power structures.
• Radical inclusion in God's family transcends race and status.
• Christian localism emphasizes community engagement and care.
• God's vulnerability is shown through proximity to humanity.
• The gospel addresses both spiritual and physical realities.

Chapters

1. Introduction to Julian of Norwich
2. Julian's Life During the Black Death
3. Visions and Revelations of Divine Love
4. The Nature of God's Love
5. Understanding the World and God's Presence
6. The Power Structures of the World
7. Radical Theology and Belonging
8. Christian Localism and Community Engagement

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