Sue Saunders is a PhD student, living in Dublin. She is exploring how spiritual practices could sustain climate change activists. In this conversation, she talks about the United Nations Inner Development Goals, psychotherapy, quakerism, and finding the Divine in nature. She has developed a simple spiritual practice, she calls Natura Divina, which gives some structure and support to being in nature as a way of connecting with the divine. She shares how this practice has deepened her own spiritual experience and how she hopes it will help those engaged in climate activism.

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In this episode of the Loved Called Gifted podcast, Catherine chats with Steve Kenyon—a dad, nurse manager, musician and former DJ—about his journey through faith, work, and identity. Steve shares stories from his childhood in Lancashire, his early experiences in nursing, and how his desire to make a difference led him into healthcare leadership. They talk about creativity, not just in the arts, but in problem-solving and leadership, and how Steve’s background in hospital radio and broadcasting still shapes how he connects with others. He speaks honestly about what it means to be genuine, the challenges of masculinity, and how he and his wife Katie navigate parenting and partnership as equals. At the heart of it all is Steve’s evolving relationship with Jesus—how his understanding has deepened over time into something intimate and rooted in love. The conversation is full of warmth, wisdom, and reflections on walking faithfully (and authentically) through life’s ups and downs.

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Catherine remembers meeting God in a gift shop and muses about the fact that God is here now.

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