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Making Sense of AI 2gether

Making Sense of AI 2gether

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 This podcast explores how artificial intelligence is reshaping our daily lives. Each week, the host breaks down the buzz and cuts through the hype to help you make sense of AI.KTVU, 2025 Art Politique
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  • Burning Man meets AI: From Dust Storms to Art Bots, Claudine & Lisa ask if AI Belongs in Black Rock City

    Burning Man meets AI: From Dust Storms to Art Bots, Claudine & Lisa ask if AI Belongs in Black Rock City
    Sep 4 2025
    Burning Man isn’t just dust, art cars, and radical self-reliance anymore — AI has arrived in the desert. Claudine Wong and Lisa Bernard dive into how artificial intelligence showed up at this year’s Burn, from art installations powered by AI to debates about whether technology belongs at all. Is AI disrupting the principles of radical inclusion and creativity, or is it expanding them? And what does it mean for a new generation of Burners who’ve never known a world without AI? Highlights 1 [00:00] Welcome + the AI-written intro 2 [01:30] Burning Man origins: from Baker Beach to Black Rock City 3 [01:59] Lisa’s 7-year Burner perspective vs. Claudine’s outsider curiosity 4 [04:08] Radical self-reliance, gifting, and Burning Man’s core principles 5 [06:28] Surviving dust storms, rain, and 45 mph winds 6 [08:10] Tech billionaires at the Burn — disruption or opportunity? 7 [10:00] Starlink, cell service, and tech creeping into the desert 8 [11:35] AI-powered art installations at “the Man” 9 [16:18] Everyday uses of AI at camp: recipes, blurbs, conversions 10 [18:05] Pushback: open letters rejecting generative AI in Burning Man art 11 [20:00] Radical inclusion vs. judging AI in creative spaces 12 [22:17] Generational divide: Is Burning Man becoming “for the olds”? 13 [25:21] AI in logistics — from mutant vehicles to ice distribution 14 [27:25] Guardrails, regulation, and lessons from social media 15 [28:16] If AI can make it at Burning Man, it can make it anywhere Connect with us: Claudine Wong: https://www.youtube.com/@ClaudineWongKTVU https://www.facebook.com/ClaudineWongKTVU https://www.instagram.com/claudinewongktvu | TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@claudinewongktvu | KTVU Podcast Page: https://www.ktvu.com/podcasts Lisa Bernard – Demystify AI on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/demystifyai Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    31 min
  • Making Sense of AI 2gether with Soul Machine's CPO Darren Wilson

    Making Sense of AI 2gether with Soul Machine's CPO Darren Wilson
    Aug 29 2025
    Episode: Soul Machines –Why These Digital Workers don't want your jobs From Hollywood CGI to digital coworkers: Claudine and Lisa sit down with Darren Wilson, Chief Product Officer at Soul Machines, to explore how expressive AI-driven “digital people” are reshaping the way we work, learn, and interact. Episode Summary In this episode, Claudine Wong and Lisa Bernard talk with Darren Wilson about the rise of agentic AI—digital workers with humanlike faces and emotional expression. Why they don't want your jobs, but how they are supposed to be your coach or GPS instead. Soul Machines began with CGI roots in films like Avatar and King Kong, then evolved into creating digital companions that can coach, train, and even empathize with users. Darren explains how these digital people can roleplay tough workplace conversations, ease customer frustration, and create safer, more natural interactions than chatbots alone. The trio also tackle questions of “creepy factor,” job displacement, and guardrails to prevent AI-human intimacy from going too far. Key Takeaways Beyond chatbots: Soul Machines builds AI-powered digital workers with expressive faces. Not replacing—enhancing: Digital people supplement human roles by handling tasks, coaching, and training. Empathy matters: Avatars read user emotions—mirroring concern, reassurance, or joy in real time. Guardrails in place: Avatars avoid inappropriate or overly intimate exchanges. From novelty to necessity: AI once felt like a party trick—now it’s shaping workplace learning, training, and customer support. 00:00 – Welcome & episode intro 01:52 – From chatbots to “agents” that actually do work 02:15 – Meet Darren Wilson, CPO at Soul Machines 02:49 – Are digital workers replacing humans? 04:00 – Conversational leaps: natural speech & empathy 05:54 – Soul Machines’ origins in CGI & film 08:58 – Building digital personas for travel, finance, and coaching 11:51 – Why faces matter: avoiding “uncanny valley” 15:41 – Designing empathy into AI 18:25 – Job shifts: evolution vs. elimination 21:20 – Guardrails & “do not date your chatbot” 25:25 – Fun detour: the “Black Superman” cocktail 26:30 – Darren practiced with an avatar before this podcast 27:55 – AI helps locate a missing hiker in the Alps 29:18 – Looking ahead: from movies to workplaces to robots Lisa Bernard (Demystify AI) Instagram: @demystifyai Claudine Wong Facebook & Instagram: @claudinewongktvu Youtube: ClaudineWongKTVU TikTok: @claudinektvu Timestamps & Highlights Memorable Quotes “Our goal at Soul Machines is to create a workforce that will supplement—not replace—the human workforce.” – Darren Wilson“If you’re looking angry, our avatars look concerned. If you smile, they smile back.” – Darren Wilson“Guardrails are important. Do not date your chatbot.” – Claudine Wong Guest Snapshot Darren Wilson is the Chief Product Officer at Soul Machines, a company creating digital people—AI-driven agents with expressive, humanlike faces. With roots in CGI and motion capture, Darren now leads innovation in making AI interactions more natural, empathic, and useful across industries from HR to customer experience. Connect With UsStay connected and join the AI conversation: What Now?Enjoyed this episode? Subscribe to Making Sense of AI 2gether wherever you listen. Drop us a thought: Would you feel comfortable practicing a tough conversation with a digital coworker? Connect with Darren Wilson and Soul Machines on LinkedIn. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    31 min
  • Love, Lies & Chatbots: Can AI Help You Find ‘The One’?

    Love, Lies & Chatbots: Can AI Help You Find ‘The One’?
    Aug 9 2025
    Episode Summary: In this spicy (literally!) episode of Making Sense of AI 2gether, Claudine Wong and Lisa Bernard dive deep into the digital dating world with relationship expert Spicy Mari, founder of The Spicy Life and featured coach on Netflix’s Sneaky Links: Dating After Dark. From filtered profiles to chatbots that flirt back, we ask: is AI a helpful tool in finding love—or is it leading us further away from genuine human connection?Mari unpacks the psychology of passion vs. compatibility, reveals why AI is a bridge (not a destination), and explains what real intimacy requires in a world full of DMs and dating apps.Whether you’re swiping, ghosting, or wondering if your chatbot “gets you,” this one’s for you. Guest: Spicy Mari Relationship expert and founder of The Spicy Life Featured coach on Netflix's Sneaky Links: Dating After Dark Academic background: UC Berkeley, USC, Spelman, Gottman Institute Specializes in blending science, behavior, and emotional intelligence to build lasting love Episode Highlights: 00:40 – Meet Spicy Mari: her childhood mission to find her mom love 03:23 – Why love isn’t just chemistry—it's science and structure 06:00 – Passion vs. security: what matters most as you age 08:36 – Behind the scenes of Sneaky Links and emotional growth on reality TV 10:28 – Can tech teach self-awareness and emotional intelligence? 13:13 – Why ChatGPT isn’t a replacement for therapy or coaching 16:07 – How AI can help (and hurt) profile writing and dating readiness 20:44 – “AI is a bridge, not a destination” – Spicy on tech as a dating tool 22:51 – Digital companionship: comfort or avoidance? 26:00 – The value of pain, growth, and real connection 28:03 – Are we outsourcing love—and what are we losing in the process? Key Quotes:"Chemistry is important, but not more than compatibility." – Spicy Mari "Technology is a bridge, but you still have to do the hike on your own." "Pain in relationships is purposeful. Growth doesn't happen in isolation." "If AI tells you everything you want to hear, that’s not love—it’s a script." Connect With Us: Follow Lisa Bernard @DemystifyAI on Instagram Follow Claudine Wong @claudinewongKTVU on Facebook and Instagram, and @claudinektvu on TikTok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    31 min
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