Épisodes

  • Episode 52: [52] Reframing pathways into music careers, with Kate McBain and Dan Tsu
    Dec 15 2025

    In this podcast I’m talking with Kate McBain and Dan Tsu, researchers and authors of Industry Connect, a report commissioned by Youth Music. It explores the realities of moving from education into careers in music, particularly for young people from underrepresented backgrounds. We unpack the barriers mapped in the report and the solutions emerging from the work, including reframing how we talk about ‘the music industry’ ‘pathways’ and ‘pipelines’.

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    35 min
  • Episode 51: [51] How to use music with intention in education and in life – with Sara Leila Sherman and Mort Sherman
    Oct 14 2025

    In this episode I’m talking with the authors of a new book called Resonant Minds – the transformative power of music, which explores how we can use the powerful response that our brain has to music, with intention – to feel more, focus better, connect deeper and lead more resonant lives. Sara Leila Sherman is a classical musician, educator and co-founder of Mozart for Munchkins, and her co author and father Mort Sherman has held senior positions in education in the States, and is a founding member of Public Schools for Tomorrow. He also serves on the Goldie Hawn Foundation board, a charity set up to equip children with social and emotional skills through education programmes.

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    38 min
  • Episode 50: [50] Advocating for music education – with Dr Anita Collins
    Sep 4 2025

    My first ever guest, and music education advocacy superstar, Dr Anita Collins, returns in the 50th episode of my podcast. Anita describes herself as an educator, researcher and writer in the field of brain development and music learning - but she is so much more than that. We discuss her work in advocating for music education, and focus in on practical ways to win hearts and minds for music.

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    49 min
  • Episode 49: [49] Contemporary urban music in schools and beyond – with Prof. Pam Burnard, Dr Pete Dale & Dr Raphael Travis
    Aug 7 2025

    In this episode I’m joined by some of the team at CUMIN – the contemporary urban music for inclusion network: Dr Pete Dale, Professor Pam Burnard, and Dr Raphael Travis from the universities of York, Cambridge and Texas State University. The network is for anyone working through music with young people in genres like hip-hop, grime, EDM, house and more. We discuss the challenges of measuring impact, the need for multiple and participant-led methods in evaluation. We also discuss the book 'Music for Inclusion and Healing in Schools and Beyond'.

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    42 min
  • Episode 48: PODCAST [48] Growing a trauma-informed creative organisation with Jenny Young of Blue Cabin
    Jul 10 2025

    In this episode I talk with Jenny Young, Director and founder of Blue Cabin, a charity based in the north East of England that strengthen relationships between care-experienced individuals and the people in their lives through creative activities. We talk about how Blue Cabin has grown, touching on developing practitioners, growing income streams, working with local authorities and adoption/fostering agencies, and evaluation.

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    41 min
  • Episode 47: [47] One way to solve the arts framing problem?
    Jun 26 2025

    In this second mini podcast, I want to quickly touch on framing again, but this time, thinking about long-term, systemic solutions. But perhaps not in the way you might imagine.

    Because at a time when support for the arts from politicians in the UK doesn’t seem to be improving, I think we have a massive opportunity.

    It’s an opportunity to make a systemic shift our arts CPD and support system, a shift in focus that will enable us to

    · Change perceptions about the work we do, and why it matters.

    · To make sure the arts, music and culture are properly valued and embedded in public policy as a means to improve our society and our lives.

    EDIT: With apologies for the error: audience development in the arts is 35 years old, not 25 years. It still seems like yesterday to me!



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    10 min
  • Episode 46: [46] Do the arts, culture and music have a framing problem? With Anita Holford
    May 16 2025

    In this short episode, I’m talking with … myself! In a change to the usual format, I’m sharing some thoughts on how we talk about why arts, culture and music matter. I touch on framing, messaging and decision science, and I mention organisations and individuals that can help, and are worth following.

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    18 min
  • Episode 45: [45] Evaluating and communicating impact: the key to resilience - with Adam Joolia, CEO, AudioActive
    Mar 7 2025

    How did a youth music charity go from moments of almost giving up, to being core funded by Arts Council England, and respected by commissioners/funders in public health and youth justice? Listen in on my chat about resilience with Adam Joolia, CEO of AudioActive, the brilliant Sussex charity that uses music as a tool for social change, education, and personal development with young people.

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    44 min